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Old November 4th, 2007, 11:33 PM
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Yahoo Optimization
I have a website that top ranking in Google with targeted keywords, target page is not home page its services page. I know different search engines have different algorithm and they rank a website accordingly. If we talk about Google then Google pay more attention to off page activities.
But in case of Yahoo it’s totally different.
Yahoo gives more attention to on page activities like Title Tag, Meta Description, Meta Keywords, Anchor Text, Alt tags, H1 etc. If we strong on page Activates you will easily rank in Yahoo.

But my question is I did all the things which is I mentioned, but my website not rank in yahoo. Please suggest..........
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Old November 4th, 2007, 11:51 PM
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But in case of Yahoo it’s totally different.
Yahoo gives more attention to on page activities like Title Tag, Meta Description, Meta Keywords, Anchor Text, Alt tags, H1 etc. If we strong on page Activates you will easily rank in Yahoo.

But my question is I did all the things which is I mentioned, but my website not rank in yahoo. Please suggest..........
Arrggghhh - Meta keywords? alt tags? Yahoo -Totally different......... Where do you come up with this stuff?

Yahoo also (it is speculated) pays more attention to 'offpage' factors. It is just that yahoo is not as fussy about where your links come from. Relevance does not seem to an issue with yahoo - The results being that yahoo results are crappy (my site excepted of course). Yahoo also seems to give more weight to KIDs (keywords in domains).

my view is that
1) yahoo does not really weight links that much (well at least not as much as google) but goes more on volume
2) sitewides still seem to count as many rather than a single link in yahoo
3) Yahoo does not care if links come from link farms
4) Yahoo does not recognise nofollow.

In yahoo internal pages of sites with lots of links come up a lot simply because of on page factors. This is not saying that onpage factors are the most important just that if you have the juice it seems easier to get internal pages ranking. Yahoo does not seem to care about deeplinking anywhere as near as much as google. Seems to give LJ from HP to any page to a much greater degree than google. (all the above is purely my speculations and observations - you are perfectly welcome to think its a load of crap).
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Old November 5th, 2007, 12:27 AM
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Meta keywords? alt tags? Yahoo -Totally different......... Where do you come up with this stuff?Means
and how can i give more weight to KIDs(keywords in domains) without keywords stuffing........
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Arrggghhh - Meta keywords? alt tags? Yahoo -Totally different......... Where do you come up with this stuff?. Relevance does not seem to an issue with yahoo - The results being that yahoo results are crappy (my site excepted of course). Yahoo also seems to give more weight to KIDs (keywords in domains).
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Originally Posted by Yahoo! Search Guidelines
  • Use a "description" meta-tag and write your description accurately and carefully. After the title, the description is the most important draw for users. Make sure the document title and description attract the interest of the user but also fit the content on your site.
  • Use a "keyword" meta-tag to list key words for the document. Use a distinct list of keywords that relate to the specific page on your site instead of using one broad set of keywords for every page.
It's clearly stated by themselves they still count meta keywords and meta description as a ranking factor. You can see it here: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/search/ranking/ranking-02.html

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and how can i give more weight to KIDs(keywords in domains) without keywords stuffing........


Use your keyword once in the domain/URL, but remember that having an easy to remember, brandable domain brings in more benefits in the long run then a hyphenated domain containing your keyword(s).
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yahoo really takes time.. thats it.. just noticed that...
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Yahoo gives more attention to on page activities like Title Tag, Meta Description, Meta Keywords, Anchor Text, Alt tags, H1 etc. If we strong on page Activates you will easily rank in Yahoo.

But my question is I did all the things which is I mentioned, but my website not rank in yahoo. Please suggest..........

You have done onpage optimzation, just carry on with the off page factors too, and wait you will get the results
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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:34 AM
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I am awaiting for that more than 7 months. its very long while
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You have done onpage optimzation, just carry on with the off page factors too, and wait you will get the results
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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:43 AM
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I am awaiting for that more than 7 months. its very long while


I have a site that's 14 months old, already ranking hugh in Google but still not in Yahoo!
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I have a site that's 14 months old, already ranking hugh in Google but still not in Yahoo!


110% right! I have all the things on my website posted above by the forum members but still i am no where in top 50?

Yahoo is simply unpredictable no one can claim whether onpage is important or offpage.If any one have doubt simply justify yourself
here - http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=seo+services+india&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

PS - More than half of the website listed on above given links are brands and they dont have kws in their domain name.
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yea... and now yahoo have updated their serps where i have seen for some keywords spam on every single website in the top 20. its just unnacceptable how they consider this to be better for the user. They have to realise they need to sort it, they are falling too far behind.
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yea... and now yahoo have updated their serps where i have seen for some keywords spam on every single website in the top 20. its just unnacceptable how they consider this to be better for the user. They have to realise they need to sort it, they are falling too far behind.


I said it many times but will say it again, unless a cataclysm happens, Yahoo! will never catch Google from behind.
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Thank for all now I am looking my website in Yahoo listing now I can understand that listing in yahoo it’s really time taken job.
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Yahoo and Msn has its own mind. I would say don't even bother about them. Once in a good day you will find you are getting visitors from them. It took me 8 months to get some traffic from them, still not same as Google combined Msn and Yahoo. But something is better then nothing of course!
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yahoo really takes time.. thats it.. just noticed that...
i agree,, ive notice also. if you are easy ranked at gg sooner yahoo and msn follow.
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