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Old December 21st, 2007, 02:19 AM
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Unhappy Difference yahoo and google....

I have a site, in google SE i'm on no.2 in a certain keyword but in yahoo i'm on no. 30, but I used the same keyword. why??? what are the ways they rank???
somebody expert here could help me......pls... thanks....

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Old December 21st, 2007, 03:32 AM
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I have a site, in google SE i'm on no.2 in a certain keyword but in yahoo i'm on no. 30, but I used the same keyword. why??? what are the ways they rank???
somebody expert here could help me......pls... thanks....

As yahoo and google are two different search engines, they are following different algos.
Such as Google prefer off the page factors (back links) most, where yahoo looking for on page factors and may be age of the domain.
One suggestion to you, don't over focus on Yahoo and MSN; these will hardly return you any traffic.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 04:02 AM
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Re:Why does Google provides different search results than Yahoo for the same keywords

There are various parameters which creates the difference in search engines like Google & Yahoo!.

Some of them are as follows:

* Search engine class
* Relevancy algorithm
* Paid inclusion programs
* Time frame and age
* Crawl depth
* Link authenticity & Content
* Common words
* Open directory

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* Search engine class
* Paid inclusion programs
* Crawl depth

Can you explain these 3?

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another difference between Google and Yahoo...

Google follows the nofollow attribute while Yahoo doesn't at all...
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Can you explain these 3?



Yup, here is the detail:

Search engine class : Type of search engine make a difference in the search results. Some search engines are Crawler-Based search engines like Google & Yahoo , some are Human-Powered directories, such as open directory and some are Hybrid search engines, like MSN. Their different way of processing create the difference in the search results.

Paid inclusion programs : These programs makes the organic search results more commercial. In this service, the web owner need to pay a flat fee for placing their web page in the top ranking of search engine result pages. For example, Yahoo! has its own paid inclusion program.

Crawl depth : It simply means how deeply search engines are moving through the web pages and how much weightage they are giving to the other factors like link quality etc. This is also an important factor for determining the rank of the websites. For example, Google's crawl depth determined not only by the link quantity but the link quality as well.
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another difference between Google and Yahoo...

Google follows the nofollow attribute while Yahoo doesn't at all...


iam not quiet agree with this... please explain to me . why wiki external link having no follow attribute. still not consider by GG as IBL

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iam not quiet agree with this... please explain to me . why wiki external link having no follow attribute. still not consider by GG as IBL


Answered by Google’s Adam Lasnik (Matt’s on vacation), Yahoo’s Director of Search Tim Mayer to get the lowdown on No Follow directly from the source.

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So, here are the basic No Follow questions and answers

1. How does your search engine treat the No Follow attribute?

* Google : The Googlebot does not follow that link.
* Yahoo : If we find a link we make it available to our algorithms to find new content, whether it has a ‘no follow’ attribute or not. However, if the ‘no follow’ attribute is present, it means that no attribution is given to the target from the source of the link.

2. If a site has no web citations and only has one link pointing to it, and that link is from a Wikipedia entry, would your search engine find that site and index it even though the link uses a No Follow attribute?

* Yahoo : Yes, the link is available to our crawlers for finding the target. Then the target will be crawled and indexed based on our algorithms.
* Google : Assuming that link is still no-followed per Wikipedia’s current practice, we will not find much less index that page (remember, this is page, not site related; if links to other pages on that site are not no-followed, we will see and potentially index those pages).

3. Is there any quality given to sites which attract No Follow links from authority sites, besides the lack of the passing of PageRank, Link Authority or “Search Juice”?

* Google : Since the Googlebot does not follow no-follow links, this isn’t really an issue.
* Yahoo : As promised in the semantics for the ‘no follow’ tag, the anchor text and attribution will not be carried over to the target of a ‘no follow’ link.
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another difference between Google and Yahoo...

Google follows the nofollow attribute while Yahoo doesn't at all...


You are correct in stating that google does in fact follow the nofollow attribute, but what you need to remember is that no link juice or any value is passed through it. Notice http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/interview-with-matt-cutts-covering-nofollow-noindex-robots-txt-and-more-171879.html. If you look at Visio's post you will see that this has been tested, only a few months ago, if this has now changed then fair enough.

My question to you though is WHY is this relevant to this post? He asked for factors that would have decreased his rankings, nothing about how the robots crawl a website.

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JagNet disagrees: Google does not follow links marked as nofollow


Ahh...I guess you got that wrong JagNet.

What he meant by this:

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Google follows the nofollow attribute while Yahoo doesn't at all...


Is that Google acknowledges the nofollow attribute and hence doesn't follow the nofollow links.

While Yahoo doesn't acknowledge nofollow links and hence follows them
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Ah, I see -- well that was as clear as mud!

Have a listen to the Matt Cutts interview at Pubcon (www.stephanspencer.com/search-engines/matt-cutts-interview) and he mentions this issue with regards to nofollow. It's also worth listening to for the discussion about "100 links per page" and how that originated.
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Here is the interpretation by the individual search engines on nofollow tags.

Google takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. That is supposedly their official statement, but experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. They show instead that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page). Links with "nofollow" are included in the backlinks reporting data at Google's Webmaster Central.

Yahoo! "follows it", but excludes it from their ranking calculation.

MSN Search respects "nofollow" as regards not counting the link in their ranking, but it is not proven whether or not MSN follows the link.

Ask.com does not use the attribute for anything



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For Ranking in Google and Yahoo. I have also bad exp.

One of my keyword having a 3rd position in google but in yahoo it shows at around 45th position.

so what techniques, i will apply for yahoo to get good ranking like google ?

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I find with yahoo that domain name and title text are given more weight than in google rankings. At the end of the day though i usually optimise more for google anyway since it has about a 65% market share compared to yahoos 15%!

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I have a site, in google SE i'm on no.2 in a certain keyword but in yahoo i'm on no. 30, but I used the same keyword. why??? what are the ways they rank???
somebody expert here could help me......pls... thanks....


You should be rather happy to see your rankings on Google.

Normally we see website ranking on top of Yahoo, but not on Google.

You just need to submit your website to relevant directories. This will help you gain higher rankings on search engines.

Yahoo gives more