Article Spinning

Any advice as to which Article Spinner is the best? I've tried a couple, but either they didn't work properly or I didn't use them properly. Both were free. One was Jetspinner and the other Free Article Spinner.

I've been told that Magic Article Submitter is the best. And for $80, you get the spinner and an article submitter. But considering the lack of success I've had in the past, I hate to shell out the money, especially without knowing if it is the best.

Article spinning is like dipping crap in chocolate..... on second thought.... it is like dipping cheap chocolate in crap.

I think it would be difficult or unlikely that you will be able to build a successful site this way.

A human writing is always better than any artificial spinning technique which is based on replacing words with their synonyms. You loose context of your article by spinning it.

I agree that the quality of articles spun by humans will probably be better than machine-spun articles in most cases. However, time is money. It takes a lot of time to spin articles by hand and then submit them one at a time. Besides, you can control which synonyms you use in an auto spinner after the article is spun. It seems that a good article spinner and submission tool (if there is one) would be valuable if used properly. Has anyone used Magic Article Rewriter? Or does anyone recommend an article spinner?

What? You've already asked that question and gotten responses already and you're asking it again? I don't see the need to repeat what EGOL has already said. If anyone felt differently, they would have challenged EGOL on it. Obviously, what EGOL said is not what you want to hear. So just waste your money on the damn thing and be done with it.

indeed.


by your definition. money matters only after time. but time is quality. there are no shortcuts to gaining top-billing on major search engines. you are the guy that tries to cut in line at the grocery store. you prolly even go to the express register with more than 20 items! 20 items means 20 items! You might get out of the store sooner than me but my car wont break down in the parking lot (i dont know, this analogy crap is making me cranky).




it takes even longer to write unique content, so imagine the surprise on my face when I write unique drafts that you purge from my intellectual property rights! you do know, that no matter how much traffic you might get one day, it will fold like a deck of cards. Chances are; if you are working so hard at Black Hat SEO, it's probably because the market phrase is already competitive with ripe ORGANIC-NATURAL rankers. Do you think they won't notice you one day and report you to google?


Good. That way, it won't take long to remove the sludge and completely rewrite everything when you get blanked by google.



no such thing.



you.



no. but check blackhatsgetpowned.com; i bet someone there did.


Recommending an article spinner to an SEOr is like recommending a Huffy to Lance Armstrong. He's just gonna laugh at you all the way to the front of the line.

My original question was: [Does anyone have] "any advice as to which Article Spinner is the best?”

EGOL replied with:

“Article spinning is like dipping crap in chocolate..... on second thought.... it is like dipping cheap chocolate in crap. I think it would be difficult or unlikely that you will be able to build a successful site this way.”

terriwells agreed. Poiesis01 agreed.

Then Lester said:

“A human writing is always better than any artificial spinning technique which is based on replacing words with their synonyms. You lose context of your article by spinning it.”

Then I said:

“I agree that the quality of articles spun by humans will probably be better than machine-spun articles in most cases. However, time is money. It takes a lot of time to spin articles by hand and then submit them one at a time. Besides, you can control which synonyms you use in an auto spinner after the article is spun. It seems that a good article spinner and submission tool (if there is one) would be valuable if used properly. Has anyone used Magic Article Rewriter? Or does anyone recommend an article spinner?”

Then Poiesis01 (sarcastic prick) said:

“What? You've already asked that question and gotten responses already and you're asking it again? I don't see the need to repeat what EGOL has already said. If anyone felt differently, they would have challenged EGOL on it. Obviously, what EGOL said is not what you want to hear. So just waste your money on the damn thing and be done with it.”

Notice that nobody said, “I’ve tried such and such a spinner and it was like dipping chocolate into crap.” Or, “I’ve tried several spinners, but none of them do a very good job.” There was no indication from anyone posting that they had ever even tried a spinner. Certainly anyone should agree that if a good spinner and submitter really did exist, it would be worth its weight in gold.

Poiesis01 claims I was simply repeating the same question and gotten a response. A response is not the same as an answer. My original question was “which Article Spinner is the best?” There was no indication that EGOL has ever used a spinner. If he has tried a spinner, or knows of someone who has tried a spinner, wouldn’t it have been helpful to have mentioned that? And if he had bad luck with one particular spinner, does that mean that all spinners are crap?

Poiesis01 got bent out of shape by stating that “if anyone felt differently (from EGOL), they would have challenged EGOL on it.” I don’t know EGOL and I assume he was trying to be helpful. Is EGOL the Omniscient God of the Universe of website technology? I’m not interested in how people “feel.” I’m interested in facts, not opinions.

Then Poiesis01 concludes with, “Obviously, what EGOL said is not what you want to hear. So just waste your money on the damn thing and be done with it.”

What I want is a factual, unbiased opinion from someone who has tried a spinner or two, someone who can give a factual, unbiased evaluation. You’ll notice in my original post that I asked the question because I don’t want to waste money. Bottom line, if there is a quality spinner and submitter out there, it doesn’t take an Einstein to deduce how valuable that would be. So again, my question is in two parts:

1. Has anyone tried any spinners? (If not, why do you even bother to reply to my posts?)

2. Is there a spinner that you recommend? (If so, why? If not, why not?)

By the way, I'm speaking of taking an original article that I wrote and spinning it using synonyms and paraphrasing, not pirating someone else's articles.

Our helpful nature obligates us to tell you that we do not believe that your method will be successful. We could be saving you time and money.

SEO is all about placing bets on methods that you believe will work. We have told you that our money is not on article spinners, but you are free to try them if you want.

Don't get bent out of shape if people comment on methods when you are asking about products. If the Einstein spinner has been invented I bet it isn't for sale.

Consider more specific title tags on your threads if you want comments on products instead of methods.

FYI... I know someone who used to make a living with article spinners... he used to register domains by the hundreds... however, these days domains populated with spun articles don't perform very well (unless you have a lot of links and an article generator that is exceptional) and the many versions of spun articles compete with one another in the SERPs.

Here's an article from a long time ago... still relevant today...

http://seodummy.blogspot.com/2006/04/do-automatic-content-generators-work.html

Search google for the subject... there is a lot out there if you don't like the comments you are getting here.

Hey, I've got one of those, but it's pretty slow, only works optimally for a few hours, needs to be rebooted at least once a day, tends to want to do other stuff at times ... hmmm now that I think of it, maybe it's not that exceptional.

BuckeyeTom, I've seen lots of spinners recommended on various forums, tried quite a few when article submission was still a viable option. None of them worked for me. Maybe I was/am just too much of a perfectionist, but if I'm going to put my name on something then it better be damn good, so that didn't work. These days, following the Panda update, article submissions aren't that effective.

Thanks for that thoughtful reply. It was helpful.

Poiesis01,

Again, I appreciate your comment. I've tried a couple spinners and they didn't work well for me at all. I was just hoping there was a good one out there. Dang!

Magic Article Rewriter was recommended to me by my SEO guy. He said he had a trusted friend that used it and was happy with it.

I was curious about your comment: "These days, following the Panda update, article submissions aren't that effective." I'd like to know more about that because my plan was to write tons of articles, spin them with a good spinner, then submit them to all the directories. If that is a waste of time (certainly it is time-consuming), then I'd like to understand why. By the way, what is the Panda Update?

So your SEO guy hasn't used it himself? Does your SEO guy use article spinning himself?

Article submissions aren't that effective, but that doesn't mean it's a complete waste of time. Just that the value of it has been reduced. In the end, what you're looking for are backlinks. Are there less time consuming and easier ways to get backlinks of similar quality? Talk to your SEO guy, he should have some good recommendations.

The Panda update is the recent update to Google's algorithm, also known as the farmer update as it went after "content farms" knocking back sites with low quality content, little or no original content. Article directories were one of the websites that go hit hard by this update so they've become much, much more strict on the quality of the articles submitted to them, and the originality of them. This means the time you need to put into these articles increases.

Poiesis01,

Thank you.

I will admit that genuine article writing is the best practice but it's cheaper to get articles spun than getting original content. Especially if you just need content for your blogs quickly. SENuke is good. Try Black Hat SEO. I get articles spun and use a backlinking program called clickcentive that gets me money per every link I have on my blog sites. I'd be paying arm and leg for spun articles and they take twice as long.