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Old November 3rd, 2003, 11:52 AM
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I've been seeing that my corporate site gets noticable traffic from Google with the keyword phrase "what is php".

http://www.google.com/search?q=what...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I am curious as to why Google selected my definitions page for this and why not PHP's.

Can us SEO's utilize the Google definitions to drive traffic to our clients?

Thoughts?
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 01:40 PM
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I don't think anyone knows everything about the guts of the algorithms outside of Google, but my guess is the filename of definitions.php has a lot to do with it.

Might be a good experiment to run to put up a couple pages... with filenames like "definition.seo" or something for "what is seo"...

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Old November 3rd, 2003, 03:37 PM
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Hm thats interesting.
I'm researching and will post if I find anything else.
You also keep us updated Rusty n Shawn.

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Old November 3rd, 2003, 03:42 PM
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It is not showing your url for other definitions on your page.
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 03:55 PM
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I would think it's most likely a combination of factors, such as:

(1) short, descriptive text "blurb"
(2) high keyword density
(3) the use of the word "definitions" in the url

I would be interested in setting up a test to see the different ways you can approach this, such as setting up:

http://definitions.domain.com/php/what-is-php/
http://definitions.domain.com/asp/what-is-asp/

or even

http://www.domain.com/definitions/php/

etc etc. Might also be interesting to split that page up and see how many definitions you can dominiate.
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Well, its excellent to be the number one position for a keyword like "applications" what is applications (126,000,000 total results)

http://www.google.com/search?q=what...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

So there must be a good way to use this to maximize our results.

one thing pretty much consistent throughout these results are that the page URLs contain "definition(s)" or "glossary" within them.
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If you look at the "more definitions" link that Google provides on the applications definition you have just provided, you can clearly see that your definitions are much better & clearly written than all of the others.
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Also, I just was trying random keywords just now with common words that I SEO for. For instance, I typed in "what is dating". The first result does not have the word "definition" or "glossary" in it anywhere - however, it comes from a .edu domain. Interesting.
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definitions must be more clear in this site but how does a crawler recognise which definition is more clear?
something else i guess.

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would PR have a factor in the order in which defintions are shows in the more definitions link ?
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Wow being at the top of a search term like that would be fantastic

Look at the guy at the top for "what is internet"
Nothing better than "ranking" above microsoft.com
That must be bringing in a bit of traffic.
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Of course, once Google sees everyone doing this, I'm sure they would change the algorithms quickly...

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Never mind that http://www.google.com/search?source...=what+is+google
Google gets out ranked for what is google lol
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Holy ****.
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Riddle me this.

Out of curiosity (and after scanning many definitions provided by princeton.edu --> google listings) I went to www.WhatIs.com.

The first thing on the page was "Definitions for thousands of the most current IT-related words." On a hunch I randomly picked a category and started drilling. I got down to ACF2. It gave a definition of whatever ACF2 is. So I went to google, and I typed in "what is ACF2", thinking that this page (or another like it) might pop up as the definition.

it didn't.

So I tried something simpler - "what is a computer". Got a hypertext glossary.

Is it only common words or something? How can we utilize this?
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