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Old April 28th, 2004, 04:46 PM
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Why I Love Teoma

I wrote a small article a few months back on Teoma, with my thoughts on how they are superior to other search technologies. That article was looked upon well and even published at SEMPO.

I was hoping to drive a intellectual conversation on Teoma's search technology and how it makes Ask Jeeves a promising search service.

Specifically the concept of "subject specific popularity" and "authoritative hubs". Now keep in mind, Teoma was discussing "authoritative hubs" before Google.

So if you have a few moment read the article and lets get a thread moving over here.

Supplemental reading from me on Teoma at Search Engine Roundtable (please keep the discussion here):
AskJeeves Makes Big Buy - Stock Soars
Authorities in the Eyes of the Link Builders
Teoma Link Popularity: The Better PageRank?

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Old April 29th, 2004, 11:10 PM
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teoma/askj has some good ideas. small search engines tend to make noise with IDEAS.

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Great, it is good for all of us to look at the other engines that do their own crawl like www.teoma.com owned by www.ask.com both great services. I think that everyone should look at new search engines. Check out www.searchenginesinternational.com for a lot of links to new engines. The focus on SEO's to continue to figure out Google's broken ALGO's is a great waste of time since the search market is larger outside of Google when you combine the market share of Google competition.

When and if Google ever improves their bias in listing search results and discontinues banning small webmasters from the SERP's and ADSENSE programs for even a little thing, then I will think more of them. Until then I will focus on anything that is not Google, it is simply more productive then trying to figure out a bunch of crap ALGO's that are changed daily to benefit GOOGLE. not the internet community...You can not figure out ALGO's that are TOP SECRET and this is why a open source platform such as www.nutch.org will blow Google's vanted ALGO's from the face of the earth. Good buy Google, it was not nice knowing you.

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Until then I will focus on anything that is not Google, it is simply more productive then trying to figure out a bunch of crap ALGO's that are changed daily to benefit GOOGLE.


I would like to point out just how obsessed with Google you really are, even though it doesn't appear to be so obvious to you yet.

You say above that you will "focus on anything that is not Google", and yet ironically, Google is the only thing you are posting about these days.

It seems quite clear to all of us what your objectives are, and that is to spread a negative word about Google, just because you are bitter about the fact that you are incapable of optimizing for Google. I think a dark fantasy part of you is waiting for a secret PM from a mytersious Google_Guy requesting your URL so that he/she might improve your rankings.

News Flash: that's not going to happen, and in my opinion you would be a fool those assume so.

If you reall want to "focus on anything that is not Google", how about posting about something that is not Google related .
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Now that Darrin has cleared up that problem...

That's a great article rusty. I'm still always concerned the issue of authoritative hubs and how one is designated as such. Theoretically, I could create 100 different URLS, write similar, but not duplicated content, and then have all 100 URLS reference my one "hub" URL...still too open to spam.

That having been said, Teoma is serving up some pretty relevant results; are they really superior though? If so, the best thing for them would be to get onto another second tier engine, like Lycos...expanding the reach seems to be what got Google where it is; Teoma might be wise to follow the same emergence strategy.

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http://www.boston.com/business/tech...ut_up_for_sale/

"Among prospective buyers to whom Lycos is being shopped are several West Coast search companies, including Google Inc., Yahoo Inc., and Ask Jeeves Inc."

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RB, it is really the only option open to them right now. Wait much longer and their value will be equivalent to yesterday's newspaper.

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I am not sure how much of a difference Lycos would make, its current market shares is 0.5%, and Ask's is 7%.

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Well, I suppose 7.5% is better than 7.0%.

Ask will probably continue to grow in their market share, though I'd imagine Lycos will continue to shrink (unless they do something drastic). In any case, Teoma needs all the share help they can get for SEOs and other marketeers to focus on it as a viable engine.

I'm trying to think of other synergies between Lycos and Ask...other than some coders and advertising overlap, I got nuttin'.

Ooooh, how about Ask buying About.com from Primedia...the CEO of Primedia looks to be offloading just about everything over there; thus, the re-launch of "portal" sites at about.com might just fit with Teoma's authoritative hub concept. Hmm, I like that one.

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good thing we are not running ask.

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So do you consider Teoma's "subject specific popularity" to work similar to the Topic Sensitive PageRank (TSPR), Hilltop, or another mechanism?

According to your article, it would seem that the best strategy for Teoma would be to solicit/acquire links from sites that are listed in the results for the terms you are targeting. Thoughts?

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I'm not sure whether this uses the same sort of technology or not, but I've been pretty impressed with the searching at blinkx.com. Yeah, it uses a little app but the results seem better than some others.

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burger - do you own this search engine?

You appeared in another forum today with a similar first post today.

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