Site review threshold - let's nuke it

[dzine]

People come here all the time asking how to improve their website. Legit questions most of the time.

But they cannot post in the proper section (i.e. Site Reviews) because of some silly rule.

So they post it anywhere => Clutter. Deletions. Grief

I'd like to see the threshold removed for starters.....

[Test-ok]

People come here all the time asking how to improve their website. Legit questions most of the time.

But they cannot post in the proper section (i.e. Site Reviews) because of some silly rule.

So they post it anywhere => Clutter. Deletions. Grief

I'd like to see the threshold removed for starters.....

I like the idea, But if were going to upgrade as I've heard, we might want to wait, we'll have a lot more options after.
just a thought

[jimsthoughts]

I like the idea, But if were going to upgrade as I've heard, we might want to wait, we'll have a lot more options after.
just a thought

agreed! We'll be changing the site a lot to make it better...and we'll also look to your input as well.

[Test-ok]

agreed! We'll be changing the site a lot to make it better...and we'll also look to your input as well.

I give you kudos for taking on such a task, but your young and energetic. Really though running a successful forum is quite a large and very time consuming job. Having to keep personalities in check all while implementing the do's and don't according on what the ultimate goal of the forum's for, keeping moderators on task because their a big part of the face for the forum. Keeping on top of all the spam because of the success. I think your going to do a good job. Your already on the right track...Having a community ran by the community...thats a beautiful concept.

[dzine]

I'd even take this thing a bit further:

About half a dozen subforums, and an instant ban on questionable posts in the wrong section.

My suggestion:

1 Introduce yourself (if you must - NO LINKS!)
2 Site review requests (strict rules apply!)
3 Google optimization tips and news
4 All other search engines (Yahoo, Bing, Baidu, yawn...)
5 Other forms of internet marketing incl. 'social' optimization
6 the Lounge: search-related info and various chat
7 SEO professionals: get help from a pro, or offer help as a pro

People just cannot cope with 30 subforums......

[gazzahk]

I agree there need to be less forums. I in my entire membership time have visited less than half. It confuses people and people post question in places no one visits. Revue the quantity and improve the quality…

[JBacchi]

I agree with fewer forums. I wish I had time to read everything and at least would more likely see more posts if all in the same forum.

Like the lounge idea. Can be fun to have off topic threads. Some pretty funny characters on here.

[dzine]

Personally I never visit forums directly, unless I wanna start a thread which I rarely do. (Oops, did it here but never mind that). I only use:
http://forums.seochat.com/search.php?do=getnew

It's just that forum management apparently likes to have the posts in the right categories, but most forum posters can't be arsed to comply.

So right now, there are two options:
1) we (mods) leave it be and it becomes a mess
2) we move all the threads to their proper section, which is a sh**load of work

I'd like to add a 3) option: make it easier for people to follow the rules, nuke the rest

[dzine]

Um we may wanna decide pretty soon. Site review requests keep flooding in by the dozen....... (all in the Google Opt forum of course - tsk)

[fathom]

Um we may wanna decide pretty soon. Site review requests keep flooding in by the dozen....... (all in the Google Opt forum of course - tsk)

You do understand shutdown a Site Reviews forum won't stop site reviews from flooding into Google Optimization forum... right?

Maybe putting the Site Reviews forum at the top of the board would get people to post there instead.

Temporarily banning members for posting site reviews would stop members from posting site reviews... I'm pretty positive that would do the job.

Course getting moderators to do their mod jobs is an easy solution to the whole ****ing problem.

[Test-ok]

Um we may wanna decide pretty soon. Site review requests keep flooding in by the dozen....... (all in the Google Opt forum of course - tsk)

Why not lock it and edit their post (if they provided a url) and tell them to post a site review question in the Site review section, perhaps add a link to the category. You might also what to tell them to read the rules there as well. (and if the rules need updated, lets get that done)
Perhaps that would aim others who post in the wrong forum some guidance.

I agree with fathom except for the RUDE suck comment in the topic that lead him here ..you were doing great up until then..it's uncalled for does absolutely nothing except piss the person off and overshadows the original problem at hand along with creating havoc. IMHO one loses respect with comments like that. And if you don't care...well I don't either.
just sayin

[fathom]

Why not lock it and edit their post (if they provided a url) and tell them to post a site review question in the Site review section, perhaps add a link to the category. You might also what to tell them to read the rules there as well. (and if the rules need updated, lets get that done)
Perhaps that would aim others who post in the wrong forum some guidance.

I agree with fathom except for the RUDE suck comment in the topic that lead him here ..you were doing great up until then..it's uncalled for does absolutely nothing except piss the person off and overshadows the original problem at hand along with creating havoc. IMHO one loses respect with comments like that. And if you don't care...well I don't either.
just sayin

hmmm... well... be careful what you wish for (somewhat off topic now)...

Candidly, I'm helpful to a fault... and I type what I'm thinking... I can curb my thoughts (no doubt about that) but that also curbs the way I think... so... nice, politically correct fathom comes at a cost.

I don't mind helping to make you better though so let's do that... I've been biting my tongue for a few days and I'm not going to do it your way.

You're nice to a flaw and your attention to details suffers dismally for it IMHO.

Your homepage - you intentionally or unintentionally claim PANDA is PENGUIN and PENGUIN is PANDA and this inherently describes your 15-year SEO history and amateurism abilities. I've only practiced for 14 years (professionally) but I generally don't make public assertions in error as I generally pay meticulous attention to details like death & taxes.

An honest mistake... ok sure. We all make them and I'm sure it doesn't matter that devaluation for PENGUIN is only about unnatural links and devaluation under PANDA is only about content.

That isn't my concern... my concern is if someone actually came to you for help with either (or both) would you help or just make matters worse?

I've seen thousands of service providers get a gig and after the customer has paid only then do the SEO Practitioner appreciate they are inadequate for the task and some come here for advice... and that's by second concern.

People offering advice here... they generally do not care about accuracy. They "care" about their public image and if their advice is "in error" god forbid anyone says anything publicly that ruins their public image... the person walking away with inaccurate advice is less important than a more senior member getting slapped for being in error.

It was freely offered so it shouldn't matter about accuracy... well "I DO CARE!" This venue isn't helped nor does it help others if we all suck at offering accurate advice. (rephrasing) If inaccuracy perpetuates beyond these pages.

I make it my business to abruptly, harshly, and even RUDELY point out errors and I do so to ensure "PEOPLE NOTICE" as a corrected error which goes unnoticed remains uncorrected and you unintentionally harm others... for no better reason that "being nice".

If you don't care about that... well that is why I am the way I am.

As much as this isn't what you wish to see in the public eye... I guarantee you will:

1. defend your literary work and put me in my place by debating the merits of "our claims," or
2. edit your homepage so that you can accuracy demonstrate to potential customers you are a professional, and
3. I can say "GO HERE!"

I also know... either way... you'll be better after this public thrashing (or I will) or both of us will and everyone else reading will get to learn at a higher level of play.

Or you can just be a mediocre SEO... because being rude is the absolute worse thing for this place... I beg to differ.

[JDIZM]

My first post here and it is quite relevant actually. I would agree there are too many categories, my first instinct after looking at all the sub forums was to hit new posts and look where it landed me. I rarely start topics myself so most of the time i'm just browsing the new posts section.

[DarrenHaye]

I would just like to say I don't agree with name calling fathom, it isn't needed.

But on the flip side I will also say I enjoy reading your posts and in the end (just imo) what is a small rude remark/ego bashing compared to knowledge you're freely giving out that would benefit people, or at least make them reevaluate their thinking.. which is never a bad thing.

Not sure what my point is in the end

[Test-ok]

I don't mind helping to make you better though so let's do that... I've been biting my tongue for a few days and I'm not going to do it your way.

That's not what this is about..but either way, I don't mind.

You're nice to a flaw and your attention to details suffers dismally for it IMHO.

That door swings both ways

That isn't my concern... my concern is if someone actually came to you for help with either (or both) would you help or just make matters worse?

I've seen thousands of service providers get a gig and after the customer has paid only then do the SEO Practitioner appreciate they are inadequate for the task and some come here for advice... and that's by second concern.

Dyslexia seem to run a muck. Even with me...good point.

People offering advice here... they generally do not care about accuracy. They "care" about their public image and if their advice is "in error" god forbid anyone says anything publicly that ruins their public image... the person walking away with inaccurate advice is less important than a more senior member getting slapped for being in error.

It was freely offered so it shouldn't matter about accuracy... well "I DO CARE!" This venue isn't helped nor does it help others if we all suck at offering accurate advice. (rephrasing) If inaccuracy perpetuates beyond these pages.

Now there's accuracy and then there's quotes that don't make any sense at all...there in lies a big difference.

Sub-domain for a forum is good especially of the owner is a competitor because no one likely helping their competitors out by adding free preferred content. But a sub-domain isn't inside the commercial website.

You can do much better.
If you re-read what you wrote and you might see why I brought it to your attention...and privately I might add, I know what you mean but I doubt the OP has a clue. And my comment above is about respect in the way one communicates in this type of format, not about how or if I can help someone with their seo problems or some of your hard to read sentences. But your changing the venue to go down that road. And to be truthful both you and I suck at writing and if I can spot it, it must really be bad, hence the reason to bring it to your attention. Not to bitch slap you in the forum but to make you look better. But now I see how you are...biting your lip and not mentioning my mistake, unless you can do it and call it a public thrashing...thanks for the help.

I make it my business to abruptly, harshly, and even RUDELY point out errors and I do so to ensure "PEOPLE NOTICE" as a corrected error which goes unnoticed remains uncorrected and you unintentionally harm others... for no better reason that "being nice".

If you don't care about that... well that is why I am the way I am.

Your saying your that way so you'll be noticed? (abruptly, harshly, and even RUDELY point out errors) It's ok for you to do this but if I point out to you a misconstrued statement... I need to defend my literary work? get real.

As much as this isn't what you wish to see in the public eye... I guarantee you will:

I'm betting your in the minority there..I doubt anyone wants to see you 'bitch slap' 'belittle' 'name calling' anyone in public.

1. defend your literary work and put me in my place by debating the merits of "our claims," or
2. edit your homepage so that you can accuracy demonstrate to potential customers you are a professional, and
3. I can say "GO HERE!"

I'll do 1 and 2

I also know... either way... you'll be better after this public thrashing (or I will) or both of us will and everyone else reading will get to learn at a higher level of play.

Or you can just be a mediocre SEO... because being rude is the absolute worse thing for this place... I beg to differ.

yea...I'm getting the public thrashing. I think you spent too much time down in that submarine...but hopefully we'll both be better off, or were just wasting our Sunday evening.

I know you very smart at what you do but in other aspects you don't take criticism or direction worth a sh*t...your a pro at dishing it out and sweep what you don't want to hear under the carpet or turn the situation around. Your looked up to by many...make your words count.

I've got things to do...editing comes to mind.