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Old November 18th, 2005, 07:57 PM
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Right, but I bet if he made another mistake, this time for $15 million a few months later, and no killings took place I'd bet he would have at least been asked to move on alone.


You are totally wrong... I would have killed him myself.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:00 PM
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You are totally wrong... I would have killed him myself.


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Sometimes businesses make "Business" decisions without considering the overall impact beyond the small change that they are making. Anyone at the company that runs this forum should know that sigs are important and that they have quite a few PRO SEOs on their hands.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:16 PM
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In my business my #1 rule... turn disadvantage into competitive advantage.

DevShed IMHO did the right thing... and if one seriously looks at the code [from an SEO perspective] you would agree...

split the wheat from the chaff and make the wheat that make more powerful.... now that the rubbish isn't wasting weight, relevancy, and RageRank on the chaff - think of the possibilities.

DevShed has made some radical changes - but in the direction.


I think SeoChat was doing quite well anyway...

As a moderator, you should try and treat this less as a business and more as a learning / education experience.

Your role is to ensure that members are happy and get the guidence they need; to ensure that people don't overstep the mark - but to treat those that do with respect.

You might like to take a look at Wit's history in this forum. You will learn from that experience. You need to.

STOP trying to suck up to those "admin" people. They know nothing about anything. They are paid to administer.

Administration has nothing to do with day-to-day life - until it's left to run rampant... tonight we can see what that does...

Go back to being a moderator. Moderate.

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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:18 PM
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In my business my #1 rule... turn disadvantage into competitive advantage.

DevShed IMHO did the right thing... and if one seriously looks at the code [from an SEO perspective] you would agree...

split the wheat from the chaff and make the wheat that make more powerful.... now that the rubbish isn't wasting weight, relevancy, and RageRank on the chaff - think of the possibilities.

DevShed has made some radical changes - but in the direction.
The only rubbish I see her is your comments and the lame defending from SEOChat.

Gone.........

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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:23 PM
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From all that I've read here and at other places, especially from former mods, it would seem this has been a heavy handed place.

There is a long history of people (quality posters) migrating out of seo chat.

So many other forums out there and it is so easy to vote with your feet.

My personal assessment after a lot of reading...from people wanting to go forward and people unhappy with what went on today...and in the past...that if I were running this place...I'd be far more accomdating to members, far more interactive. All you have to do is include people in the discussions...treat em with respect.

You don't have to take accept every opinion...you just need to make them feel good.

I suspect this place will lose a lot of quality posting for a long period of time.

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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:34 PM
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I am of the opinion now that JCaputo has simply been pushing to see how much we would take....it just has gotten worse and worse....well now he knows.


Pretty bold opinion since your invested time on this board is but 32 minutes and 6 posts. How would you know if things have just gotten worse and worse.

Oh sorry Gr8ted3s - is that you! :-)

First let's put this into perspective. DevShed has been testing different configurations and have had enormous success on other board and with implementation no one really care about [granted it wasn't an SEO board either].

In fact, Devshed [sorry to say Jon] is much like an SEO client that does what it does to benefit it's business without considering all the factor involved with their online presence.

Inherently "YOU".

That said: expectations were to benefit the community [as with all the other boards] - in fact - I believe they were amazingly brilliant.

Cut them some slack - if you are as good as an SEO as you think you are [and I think]... if you SEO'ed this board what would you do?

Benefit the community [plus yourself] or maintain the status quo - because "sig links are the answer.

The aftermath that occurred here was "reactive" and on both sides.

...and only a fool would simply let hotheads prevail. Banned them... give pause... and when cooler heads are thinking rationsally - then have a meeting of the minds.

Remember 9 boards - 8 went as planned. ...and if you actually believe your statement... why are you back?

Cut them some slack.
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SEO_AM agrees: Unban the members. Reset... then discuss sigs. The aforementioned should be the starting point.
jason_sot disagrees: enough already... do you not see that NO ONE has argued the business decision of the sig lnks?? and
please... "OMG, people are voicing opinions!! Quick, stick 'em in a box so no one can hear them
anymore!!! Then we shall have a meeting of the minds

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As I said in my neg rep fathom, who has bought you?
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As a moderator, you should try and treat this less as a business and more as a learning / education experience.


...and I do - that's why I'm still here... educating you.

...all the people that thought they lost something and didn't give a thought to learning, teaching, educating, mentoring have gone so they can gain back something that wasn't what SEOChat was.

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You just killed all outgoing links in one day. In other words: You've created a dead end on the internet... I doubt wether this strategy is succesful
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As I said in my neg rep fathom, who has bought you?


the 30+ clients I gain "freely from SEOChat"!

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I don't wish to get involved with the details of who is to blame here, I just want to know where everyone is migrating to? A new forum I assume. Maybe someone has details of this and would be willing to post it so I can start posting there now. I have nothing against seochat, but its going to be a bit boring now without the main people.
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the 30+ clients I gain "freely from SEOChat"!


Lol I believe I remember your 'quotes'. You were the guy that always said: "Probably around 12K" right?
I've seen it a couple of times and one way or the other, it was always 12K

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lol 32 minutes...At least I can still laugh fathom...

I simply came back to tell the other side since all of the posts were deleted.

I understand why the deleted the posts; the Internet is an incredibly forgiving place....eliminate the negativity and those who weren't present won't even know what occurred.

This wasn't a simple mistake, and it wasn't a one time ocurrance. How many times has JCaputo simply came in and justified everything with a "because I said so" type post.

Even DazzlinDonna and SEO_AM and many other "cool heads" have brought this up.

Why is everyone that was banned still banned?

This mistake was exacerbated and continues to be exacerbated by the owners. Fine, they're the owners, let them eat their cake!

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You just killed all outgoing links in one day. In other words: You've created a dead end on the internet... I doubt wether this strategy is succesful


That's not exactly true. Seriously.

The same community that cried foul created the condition that brought this on in the frist place.

PageRank Leak!... which is a major misconception with most of the SEO world.

But hey since SEOChat is a learning environment why not show DevShed there is enormous value in external links... prove it!

I'm positive they'll listen... they want to improve SEOChat.

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