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Because God took one look at men and said "I know I can do better than this." 3 30.00%
God knew that when Adam's fig leaf wore out, he would never buy a new one for himself. 1 10.00%
God knew that Adam would not remember to take out the garbage. 0 0%
To start all fights on the planet 6 60.00%
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Old June 15th, 2004, 01:53 AM
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Red face Please review this site....

I guess he some more beautiful things except the beautiful nature.

Anyways.. guys I wanted you review one of my sites..

http://www.cheap-car-rental-in-usa-canada.com

I have tried to design a nice layout. Atleast I think, now I want your suggestions from SEO point of view..
I hope John also review this site...

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Old August 20th, 2004, 11:07 AM
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Guys! Not even one reply in so many months..
Not even google is paying any visits.

I hope someone on this board could help me

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Old August 20th, 2004, 11:47 AM
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hey ankit,

your site is only pr2 concentrate on getting more backlinks to make this higher, therefor your site will get indexed quicker and crawled more often placing you high in google's serps




i might be wrong about this but doesn't google spread its keyword emphasis over all the keywords in the title? therefor every keyword in your title is only getting 1/20 of google's emphasis compared to a title with just 1 keyword in it . hope this helps

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Er... I hate to say that, but your domain name is unbelievable really! I heard Google hates sites with so many hyphens in them. Yours is an extreme example of this. You have to check if your site gets banned, and may be get a shorter domain name?
Don't panic though. It is just a theory. It can be wrong. So, just wait a little, get more backlinks, and let's see what happens

Can anyone else confirm, or disprove that hyphenated URL thing?

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Er... I hate to say that, but your domain name is unbelievable really! I heard Google hates sites with so many hyphens in them. Yours is an extreme example of this. You have to check if your site gets banned, and may be get a shorter domain name?
Don't panic though. It is just a theory. It can be wrong. So, just wait a little, get more backlinks, and let's see what happens

Can anyone else confirm, or disprove that hyphenated URL thing?

Yes, I'm not bothering to view your site (like many other people probably haven't) because the URL does look like SPAM and i think Google is penalising your site because of it.

Dan

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Old August 20th, 2004, 03:50 PM
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Dan, is it really fair to call someones site spam without even looking at it? Lets play nice ok
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Well... I did take a quick look, and I think spam is a good way to describe the site.

Spammy title, and what's with all those links stuffing the lower part of the page, and that just take you to other pages with even more spam links?

Rentel isn't even a word, and "If you are want to rent a car and not burn a hole in your pocket then you have come to the right place" is also wrong.

I would never rent a car from a place that has misspellings on the page.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 07:34 AM
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but I have seen your posts before here and it seems to me that your motivations for your sites are all well unprofessional. I think the layout of your site looked nice so you can obviously do quality web design. But honestly, penalized or not, the site name is tacky. I think you would have a hell of a time getting webmasters to link with you. Chuckled with the mispelled words in your title tag. Of course, who knows, with a tacky name like that maybe you are working the typo, idiot speller angle for your keywords. Also, the grammar on your site is terrible. I would have someone proofread it and reword things. Anyone that is remotely educated would think you are an idiot with grammar that bad. I am under the impression that English is not your first language, which is fine. There are plenty of us that have English as our first language with terrible grammar and spelling. But if that is a weak spot for you, maybe you could get someone to help you with it. Or better yet, try Microsoft Word; they have a grammar and spell check. I really, really try hard to be nice. If this was harsh I apologize, but you asked for feedback. So these are my suggestions.



New domain name

New title tag spelled correctly and shorter with less spam

Get someone to proofread your grammar and spelling.



The rest of the seo people will have to critique the SEO stuff because I don't feel like it.
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@Patty!

Thank you for pointing the finger at at more or less ignored SEO problem.

@Fryman.

"If you are want to rent a car and not burn a hole in your pocket then you have come to the right place"

I read the sentence out load several times before I noticed the error, browsing the website I would never have noticed it. English is a foreign language to me, and many others who rent cars in the US.

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Old August 21st, 2004, 09:52 AM
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yes, dont judge a book by its cover, and in dont i would visit the site, but i'm just one person, i'm saying via a very known stereotype that people do judge a book by its cover, its the same with websites, and therefore you wont have many people looking at your site.


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Old August 21st, 2004, 12:28 PM
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@Patty!

Thank you for pointing the finger at at more or less ignored SEO problem.

@Fryman.

"If you are want to rent a car and not burn a hole in your pocket then you have come to the right place"

I read the sentence out load several times before I noticed the error, browsing the website I would never have noticed it. English is a foreign language to me, and many others who rent cars in the US.
I think you guys know me well enough to know I am a nice person. I know that grammar would not be a factor for everyone but it would for me. I don't mind helping anyone proofread. I have people read my articles all the time for grammar and spelling. Its no big deal but it is something I would look at if you are weak in grammar. I have taken foreign language and I do know that sentence structure is different depending on what language you speak so its not a big deal but it could be helpful to get a second opinion on.

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No, no, no I did not try to insult anybody,
I was intending to give compliments.

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but I have seen your posts before here and it seems to me that your motivations for your sites are all well unprofessional. I think the layout of your site looked nice so you can obviously do quality web design. But honestly, penalized or not, the site name is tacky. I think you would have a hell of a time getting webmasters to link with you. Chuckled with the mispelled words in your title tag. Of course, who knows, with a tacky name like that maybe you are working the typo, idiot speller angle for your keywords. Also, the grammar on your site is terrible. I would have someone proofread it and reword things. Anyone that is remotely educated would think you are an idiot with grammar that bad. I am under the impression that English is not your first language, which is fine. There are plenty of us that have English as our first language with terrible grammar and spelling. But if that is a weak spot for you, maybe you could get someone to help you with it. Or better yet, try Microsoft Word; they have a grammar and spell check. I really, really try hard to be nice. If this was harsh I apologize, but you asked for feedback. So these are my suggestions.



New domain name

New title tag spelled correctly and shorter with less spam

Get someone to proofread your grammar and spelling.



The rest of the seo people will have to critique the SEO stuff because I don't feel like it.

No you weren`t rude at all, neither was fryman..
I really wanted some good advice..
But I have seen many sites with long names in their URL with lots of hyphes doing good in SEs.

I have put lots of links in index pages for a while, because I want them to get index quickly. Once indexed I will remove their links.
Misspellings are done delibrately, but will be removed soon...

Thanks to all of you..

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My biggest criticism is that in an effort to make it More SEO Friendly, you have actually made it less user friendly. If I was looking to rent a car, I would go first to the big guys to get a quote. Now I don't know any websites so I would just type in hertz.com, alamo.com, etc.... Do you notice something about their names...They are all one short word. In my opinion, this is no coincidence. What does hertz mean anyway, it has nothing to do with cars. Although there is probably some deep meaning but most people wouldn't have associated Car Rental with Hertz the day before they became a company. Or take wrentawreck - How clever is that...you don't forget a name like that. To me you are missing the foundations of business like marketing.

I would pick a domain that is unique and short. Then make a name for yourself the old fashion way...great service, advertisement, ease of use etc.

If you get to number one for the term "Car Rental", you will basically go broke paying for bandwidth because you will get visitors, not customers.

When most people are shopping for a rental car - they go to a site, get a quote, go to another, etc. While I am typing this, I can't even remember your domain because it is so convuluted. Do you expect me to then type it into the browser. Part of starting a business is research and I just wouldn't believe that people go to Google, search for Car Rental, go to the first site they see, rent on that visit. This is one of those cases where being Top 10 in Google will be of little help. Do some research on your chosen business and re-plan!

You need to design the site for your customers FIRST and SEO second. Mispelling on purpose may bump you a few spaces but what does that do to install confidence?? If English was someones second language they would be forgiven by this forum, of course, but its the customer you should be pleasing. If it is an English site catering to English speaking people, it should be gramatically correct, PERIOD. I wouldn't design a Spanish site catering to Spanish speakers without having it checked. I would know where I needed help and address it.

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But I have seen many sites with long names in their URL with lots of hyphes doing good in SEs.
But what is their conversion rate? What type of business are they in? Who is their target market? You could be number one with your domain, theres no question about it (with enough money and time etc) but to that I would say "So?". Your return on investment it took you to get there would be slim. Strict SEO is great and is important but to some businesses it is a smaller part. It should be part of your strategy, not your strategy.

P.S. You obviously know something about marketing as adding the stupid poll got me to come into this thread in the first place..LOL

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My biggest criticism is that in an effort to make it More SEO Friendly, you have actually made it less user friendly. If I was looking to rent a car, I would go first to the big guys to get a quote. Now I don't know any websites so I would just type in hertz.com, alamo.com, etc.... ...........

....................... Strict SEO is great and is important but to some businesses it is a smaller part. It should be part of your strategy, not your strategy.

P.S. You obviously know something about marketing as adding the stupid poll got me to come into this thread in the first place..LOL

Jason that was really really helpful.. I will always keep this advice in my mind. I truly never believed in onsite SEO myself, but had to resort to it for this project. I believe websites should be made for customers not for SEs, and you put it in the best words I could have ever thought about.

Just buying a few paid links, with proper anchor text in some car rental sites, can achieve rankings which we desire in just a few days. As this site is out from the sandbox now, but sometimes you have to work with the resources you have in your hands. Thats what I am doing right now, just using all the available resources alloted to me.

I am having few plans for converting visitors into customers, but right now short term goal is to get visitors..

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