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Old September 4th, 2008, 09:52 AM
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Red face Site indexed for 3 weeks, not showing up for keywords

My website has been index by Google for 3 weeks and is fully search engine optimised (legally). I've been building and managing websites for over 5 years and SEO has been a hobby horse of mine so I pretty much know what I'm doing.

When I search for site:mysite (I won't put the real domain, I'm a new member and don't want people to think I'm spamming!) it shows up EVERY page on my website.

I have webmaster tools enabled on the site and everything is a-OK according to Google. Sitemaps are enabled, no dead links, unique meta tags, unique content - everything the search engines should love (and in fact, both MSN and Yahoo! are ranking me very well for my chosen keywords).

Is it possible that I'm getting penalised for some unknown reason? The crazy thing is that one of my other websites which I'm linking from (using my keyphrase) is actually appearing in the SERPs for my chosen key phrase and my site isn't.

Needless to say, I'm confused - can anyone shed some light on this conundrum?

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Old September 5th, 2008, 07:50 AM
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What do your inbound links look like, how many do you have and how competitive are the terms you are looking at, These are all factors you should be taking into account as well as your on page items.

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Old September 5th, 2008, 08:01 AM
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Find out how many backlinks you have link:url, to be honest your keywords are prob working but so far back in the pages generated for the search.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 02:05 PM
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Can't answer without some insight as to the degree of difficulty the KW's are.

If they are 5 or 6 words, maybe you have some type of problem or penalty, if they are one or two words, 3 weeks is dreaming unless you're a spammer.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 08:28 PM
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I think Madison has nailed it for you Scotty, might be best to just wait a little while and see what happens. Being impatient is most likely one of the biggest mistakes made when it comes to evaluating rankings and making changes.

Better to wait an extra few weeks or so and see what happens rather than take down what could have been perfect to begin with.

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If your site has only been indexed for three weeks you may be suffering from the dreaded Google sandbox. Sites usually have to be well over a year old to get out of the sandbox and rank well in Google.

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My website has been index by Google for 3 weeks
Here is the first issue. How many links could you have gotton and got crawlled in 3 weeks?
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and is fully search engine optimised (legally).
here is your second issue. if you site was fully optimised you would be number one for all your keywords... The fact that you are not shows your site is a long was from fully optimised
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I've been building and managing websites for over 5 years and SEO has been a hobby horse of mine so I pretty much know what I'm doing.
here is your third issue. The very nature of this question and how it has been asked shows your knowledege of SEO isn't that great.

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When I search for site:mysite (I won't put the real domain, I'm a new member and don't want people to think I'm spamming!) it shows up EVERY page on my website.
a good start.. maybee... it depends on what you want to achieve on your website, how many pages, are you prioritising your money making pages/ etc....

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I have webmaster tools enabled on the site and everything is a-OK according to Google. Sitemaps are enabled, no dead links, unique meta tags, unique content - everything the search engines should love
here is the nest issue..You mention things that do not affect rankings and do not mention those that do. rankins are mostly affercted by links these other things are for other reasons. They do not directly influence rankings
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(and in fact, both MSN and Yahoo! are ranking me very well for my chosen keywords).
MSN and yahoo give more imprtance to onsite factors. These SE do not generate a fraction of the traffic google does. Focus on the things that work for google.

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Is it possible that I'm getting penalised for some unknown reason?
out of all possible sceniros this is the least likley...
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The crazy thing is that one of my other websites which I'm linking from (using my keyphrase) is actually appearing in the SERPs for my chosen key phrase and my site isn't.
this happens all the time. The other site is older more trusted by google. possibly has more link juice as well.

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Needless to say, I'm confused - can anyone shed some light on this conundrum?
My advice is start reading through posts and stickies on these forums and you will learn what you need to do to win the google game...
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Old September 8th, 2008, 04:00 AM
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I've got 1 inbound link from a PR 6, one from a PR 5 and one from a PR4.

I've also got about 500 inbound links via signatures in forum posts. Having scanned a bit deeper I'm at around 450 in Google for two of my key phrases.

The annoying thing is that I'm number 1 in Yahoo! and MSN for 3 out of 4 of my chosen keywords and Google is lagging behind quite severly!

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You can stick up the URL in plain text, I would love to share my findings for your website..

Seems like a less backlinks issue to me, Or may be someone is copying your content..but no speculations, show up with a URL, there might be something really specific there for you in the box of everyone..may be..
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Old September 8th, 2008, 04:12 AM
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the site is guavastudios . co.uk

and the keywords i'm targeting are:

liverpool web design
web design liverpool
liverpool web designers
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The annoying thing is that I'm number 1 in Yahoo! and MSN for 3 out of 4 of my chosen keywords and Google is lagging behind quite severly!


Firstly 3 weeks is too short a time to expect results if you are dealing with somewhat competitive keywords and not obscure ones.

From where I see it- it's you who are lagging behind in terms of getting quality links to your website.

PR of the linking page means nothing compared to the theme of the page - of course a good PR indicates that the page is not in the Google supplemental index - but you also gotto look at the content surrounding your link. Is that relevant to the theme of your website??

Next, sitewide links help get ranks in Yahoo and forum links still work for MSN. But for getting a good rank in Google [which translates into a lot of traffic and $$$$] you need to give Google some good reasons to place your website on top...and by reasons, I mean votes [links]

Work on your links - nothing else matters in Google as much as links do.

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the site is guavastudios . co.uk

and the keywords i'm targeting are:

liverpool web design
web design liverpool
liverpool web designers
web designers liverpool


Your website has 164 links to it

BUT

You technically are getting the benefit of 2-4 links since all the links are coming to your from common domains.

Remember, it's not links popularity that you need but rather domain popularity [links from multiple domains] that will help to increase ranks

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