http://www.gambling-guys.com

Hi

I am looking desparately for some help. I have read and my eyes are going square now...

I have a couple of sites doing well on yahoo and google (been at it for a year and a bit)

However, my site that I am putting most effort into is struggling on google, whilst on yahoo its top 5 for 4 terms.

Some background:

Indexed by Google December 2003
About 250 backlinks showing
Some good PR links
A ton of content - I have focussed a lot of effort on this

IT seemed to get the new site "bonus" around February this year (went to 20's for some terms), then slid right down by about April. I assumed this was the sandbox. However, it is now 5 months later and still it isn't moving much. It seems excessively long for sandbox. I am not sure if my keyword density is too high or if something else is causing problems. We have other sites in our group with the same SEO strategy that are doing well on Google.

What I am looking for is a critical review by an experienced SEO. This has seemed to be impossible to find. Everyone comes back with a proposal to take over SEO which is not what I want. I want someone I can work with as an advisor from time to time for a variety of sites.


Regards, St George

That's the statement all right.

I enjoy a challenge - unfortunately the way you have coded your website to "hide" URLs with your onmouseover msg makes this impossible to address without enormous time to investigate - I as I understand - you don't want to flip the bill!

I would say:

1. Too many websites in a closed crosslinking loop,

2. Near duplicate website content between partnering website (and by the look of the templates these are all yours - or many developed by the same company).

3. Have no idea why half of site is html the other half asp but cross technology isn't likely helping.

Any or all of these.

You "can't" address this with "a quick external and no history look" and the hours it would take to factually track a precise problem is beyond freely helping an amateur out.

Please note: normally I can see the problem inside 5 minutes - I spent 30 here... and I came to your same conclusion...

"it's impossible to find a professional willing to spend a week figuring this out - simply for THANKS"!

<added>BTW -- "sandbox" - is known as anything and everything that doesn't seem to have a rythme or reason as to why - "from a outside look".</added>

What keywords are you targeting?

If you are targeting general words like "gambling" then 250 links showing won't cut it. Sites like www.gambling.com have over 3,500 showing which is a huge difference (taking into account Google is only showing a cross section).

If you post the keywords you are referncing in your post, I am sure you will get some feedback/suggestions

**edit** although I see Fathom has offered some more in depth analysis of the on-page.

As far as not being able to get anyone to help you, I think you will find posters on this board are very willing to point you in the right direction (although to a point). If you want the most help, become a contributor and you will get more advise than you know what to do with.

Hi

Let me make it more clear. I certainly have no problem paying for good services. In the past I have posted on some other forums. All I seem to get are SEO's who want to go the whole hog - i.e. take over SEO. Surely some SEO's are willing to work on a consulting fee basis?

On to your reply:

Not sure I understand the issue of hiding URL's - could you be more specific?

We do use a template based system although we have tried to make pages look very different for different sites. Can google actually compare the "body" of pages to such an extent?

Certain pages are asp as they need to be more dynamic and would be impossible to maintain as HTML.

I am open to any suggestion as to how you maye be of service. I certainly was not expecting freebies. I need a consultant who knows what he's talking about. Not all these college kids who have a high ranking website on something nobody searches for.

Oh, and hopefully I can contribute something useful over time. If it is required to post more before you can ask anything - I haven't read that anywhere.

Regards

PS.

It's difficult to view the site "as is" noting internal/external links from status bar when everything reads Gambling Guy plus all other external sites label all links by their brand name. You can't easily follow links, anchor, text and code in this fashion looking for patterns that could possibly be the problem.

Ultimately this isn't a question of freebee or paid for service but a question of how much invested time is needed to:

1. appreciate this website's arrangement in context of all your other websites (your controlled network) in a manner that you do (but with greater appreciation for search engine metrics), and

2. pick through piece by piece cataloguing each and every nuance of the whole network.

My "gut" says - your other websites are the problem here - as they are too similar to this one -- and you are borderline on getting "all banned" if you keep pushing this one up.

Google is lightly tapping you on the shoulder - and you are not taking the hint... "bans" don't just all of a sudden occur... they built up to it.

The shortest most inexpensive solution is dump this site and move forward with the ones that are performing - instead of attempting a monopoly.

Hi Fathom

Thanks for your reply. I'd like to get in touch via PM if that's ok.

Regards

No problem... PM away! ;)