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Old May 27th, 2003, 06:07 PM
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Hi, This is my first website and has been up for about 9 weeks. I have been really pleased with the results so far but i know this is to the untrained eye! I have built the site with shopfactory and learnt everything i know about seo from seo chat (many thanks) so please let me know what you think all constructive critism will be well recived. Not very happy with speed if viewed on 56k modem but unsure what to do about it. Many Thanks in advance
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Old June 10th, 2003, 10:54 PM
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site looks somewhat plain but is decent. the biggest problem i noticed is that you used frames, which are typically considered a seo no no.

also consider pulling as much java off the source file as possible and making it a different file by calling for it from your web pages
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Old June 14th, 2003, 05:25 AM
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Thanks, i have built the site with shopfactory i am new to this and this is my first site. Could anyone explain why using frames is a no no please :
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Hi there, Using frames is a no no because: - In simple terms, The search engine robots that go out looking for info cant get to the text on the page. You could use the no frames tag to put some text and relevant links in but in general please don't use frames. If the search engine spider finds your key words and phrases in the title, description, keywords and in the body of your page you will soar up the listings. I still see websites that have been designed by so called webmasters an web designers and the page title is "untitled" or "homepage" or company xyz.

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Old June 14th, 2003, 06:30 AM
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Thanks Garry, My main keywords are flag, flags, buy flags, uk flags, world flags, flag shop.
Anything that stands out i need to do?
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Is it me, or has your domain actually got a kind of "hidden" Pagerank? When i click the link, i see a very brief PR3 on the Googlebar... but then suddenly, and very quickly, it vanishes to a PR0... is there some kind of forwarding going on?

Or perhaps it's to do with loading a frameset or something?

Just thought id point that out

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Kick that Shop-System away!
Have a look at the Source-Code:

There is an Java-Script redirect and you also have set Links to Shopfactory, you gave them PR directly from youre Mainpage.


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><html lang="en-gb" dir="LTR">
<head>
<title>Buy flags-The Flag Shop.co.uk</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="The Flag Shop UK:Buy flags, buy national flags, buy football flags, buy car flags, buy world flags,UK flags and buy bunting securley on line.">
<META NAME="KeyWords" CONTENT="flag, flags, uk flags, world flags, fun flags, car flags, bunting, union jack, st george, ensigns, buy flags, the flag shop, usa flags, cheap flags, buy flags, flags, flag shop, www.theflagshop.co.uk, football flags, giant flags">
<META NAME="resource-type" CONTENT="document">
<META NAME="revisit-after" CONTENT="14 days">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="FOLLOW,INDEX">
<script type="text/JavaScript">
var lang ="en-gb";
var primCurr="GBP";
var SecondCurr="";
var set_currency="";
var prices="";
var symbol="";
var decimals="";
var version=0;
var fname ="enter";
var currentLocation;
var loaded = false;
var targeted=false;
var currentContent="front.html"; //front.html";
var cdataLoaded=false;
var frontLoaded=false;
var buttonLoaded=false;
var tocLoaded=false;
var goodBrowser=false;
var coreCalled=false;
var deptCalled=false;
var deptLoaded=false;
var cLoadLoaded=false;
var xLoaded=false;
var globeMerchantid="";
var globe_resellerid="";
var globe_password="";
var globe_count=0;
var globe_message1="";
var globe_error1="";
var globe_error2="";
var passwordLoaded=false;
var frontIn="";
var appName=navigator.appName;
var appVersion=parseInt(navigator.appVersion);
if(appName=="Netscape") if(appVersion>=3) goodBrowser=true;
if(appName=="Microsoft Internet Explorer")
if(appVersion<=2)
appVersion=3;
else
goodBrowser=true;
if(appVersion<3){
alert("This shopping cart utilises frames and advanced JavaScript, and as such requires a version 3 browser.");
history.go(-1);
}
//function to check that before loading core nothing else has loaded core.
function coreLoad() {
if(!coreCalled && xLoaded) {
extra.core.location="core.html";
coreCalled=true;
}
}
function load() {
if(true&&true) {
if(buttonLoaded && tocLoaded && frontLoaded) {
coreLoad();
}
}
else if(true) {
if(buttonLoaded && frontLoaded) {
coreLoad();
}
}
else if(true) {
if(tocLoaded && frontLoaded) {
coreLoad();
}
}
}
function splitStr(str,del) {
if(goodBrowser) return(str.split(del));
else {
var a=new Array();
var i=0; var j=0; k=0;
while(i!=-1) {
j=str.indexOf(del,i);
if(j!=-1) {
a[k]=str.substring(i,j);
k++;
i=j+del.length;
if(i==str.length) i=-1;
} else {
a[k]=str.substring(i,str.length);
i=-1;
}
}
return(a);
}
}
var mainLoaded=false;
var coreLoaded=false;
var totalLoaded=false;
var resell="";
var cookiePath="";
if(cookiePath=="" && location.pathname!="" && location.protocol.toLowerCase().substring(0,4)!="file") cookiePath=location.pathname;
if(cookiePath!="") cookiePath=cookiePath.substring(0,cookiePath.lastI ndexOf("/")+1);
var cookieDomain="";
if(cookieDomain=="" && location.hostname!="" && location.protocol.toLowerCase().substring(0,4)!="file") cookieDomain=location.hostname;
var serverProtocol="";
if(serverProtocol=="" && cookieDomain!="") serverProtocol="http://";
function mArr(n) {
this.count=n;
return(this);
}
function parameter(name, value) {
this.name=name;
this.value=value;
return(this);
}
var queryString=location.search;
var parameters=new mArr(0);
var clickThrough="";
var aid="";
var rid="";
var ofs="";
var curr="";
if(queryString!="") {
queryString=queryString.substring(1,queryString.le ngth);
var pairs=splitStr(queryString,"&");
for(var i=0; i<pairs.length; i++) {
temp=splitStr(pairs[i],"=");
parameters.count++;
parameters[i+1]=new parameter(unescape(temp[0]),unescape(temp[1]));
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="mid") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
clickThrough=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="rid") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
rid=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="aid") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
aid=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="target") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
targeted=true;
var query1=document.URL;
quest = query1.indexOf('#');
queryString="";
if (quest>0) queryString=query1.substr(quest);
currentContent=parameters[i+1].value + queryString;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="ofs") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
ofs=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="curr") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
curr=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}
if(parameters[i+1].name.toLowerCase()=="lang") {
if(parameters[i+1].value!="") {
lang=parameters[i+1].value;
}
}


}
}
if(clickThrough=="") {
clickThrough=getCookStr("CLICK_THROUGH");
} else {
savCookStr("CLICK_THROUGH",clickThrough,90);
}
if(rid=="") {
rid=getCookStr("RID");
} else {
savCookStr("RID",rid,90);
}
if(aid=="") {
aid=getCookStr("AID");
} else {
savCookStr("AID",aid,90);
}
function savCookStr(name,str,exp) {
var strPath=cookiePath;
var strDomain=cookieDomain;
if(location.protocol.toLowerCase().substring(0,4)= ="file") {
strPath="";
strDomain="";
}
var cookieStr="0400"+str; // set version number
var cookie=name+"="+escape(cookieStr);
var expiration=new Date();
if (exp==-1) {
expiration.setYear(2010);
expiration.setMonth(01);
expiration.setDate(01);
} else {
var t=expiration.getTime();
var msPerDay=24*60*60*1000;
t+=(msPerDay*exp);
expiration.setTime(t);
}
if(exp!=0) {
cookie+="; expires="+expiration.toGMTString();
} else { // zero duration... explicitly clear cookie
cookie=name+"=";
}
if(strPath!="") {
cookie+="; path="+strPath;
}
if(strDomain!="") {
cookie+="; domain="+strDomain;
}
document.cookie=cookie;
}
function getCookStr(name) {
var allCookies=document.cookie;
var start=allCookies.indexOf(name+"=");
if(start==-1)
return("");
start+=name.length+1;
var end=allCookies.indexOf(';',start);
if(end==-1) end=allCookies.length;
var cookieStr=unescape(allCookies.substring(start,end) );
if(cookieStr.length<4) return("");
if(cookieStr.substring(0,4)!="0400") return(""); // check version number
cookieStr=cookieStr.substring(4,cookieStr.length);
return(cookieStr);
}
var dv=false;
function demo_alert() {
dv=true;
if(location.protocol.toLowerCase().substring(0,4)! ="file") {
alert("Shops created with ShopFactory demo will not function online. Please register at http://www.shopfactory.com/");
}
}
function currency(currency_name, iso, currencyAbbrev, currency_multiplier, decimal_places) {
this.index = 0;
this.name = currency_name;
this.iso = iso;
this.abbrev = currencyAbbrev;
this.multiplier = currency_multiplier;
this.decimal_places = decimal_places;
}
var baseCurrency = new currency("", "", "", 1.0, 2);
var currentCurrency = new currency("", "", "", 1.0, 2);
var shopCurrency = new currency("", "", "&pound;", 1.0, 2);
var euroCurrencies=new mArr(13);
euroCurrencies[1]=new currency("European Euro", "EUR", "Euro",1.0,2);
euroCurrencies[2]=new currency("Austrian Schillings", "ATS", "öS",13.7603,2);
euroCurrencies[3]=new currency("Belgian Francs", "BEF", "BF",40.3399,2);
euroCurrencies[4]=new currency("Dutch Guilders", "NLG", "fl.",2.20371,2);
euroCurrencies[5]=new currency("Finnish Markka", "FIM", "Fmk",5.94573,2);
euroCurrencies[6]=new currency("French Francs", "FRF", "F",6.55957,2);
euroCurrencies[7]=new currency("German Marks", "DEM", "DM",1.95583,2);
euroCurrencies[8]=new currency("Irish Punt", "IEP", "IEP",0.787564,2);
euroCurrencies[9]=new currency("Italian Lira", "ITL", "Lit",1936.27,0);
euroCurrencies[10]=new currency("Luxembourg Francs", "LUF", "LuxF",40.3399,2);
euroCurrencies[11]=new currency("Portugese Escudo", "PTE", "Esc",200.482,2);
euroCurrencies[12]=new currency("Spanish Pesetas", "ESP", "Ptas",166.386,2);
euroCurrencies[13]=new currency("Greek Drachma", "GRD", "Dr",340.750,2);
var shopUrl = serverProtocol + cookieDomain + cookiePath;
if(shopUrl != "") {
shopUrl += "index.html";
}
document.writeln("<frameset rows=\"100,*,20\" framespacing=0 border=0>"); document.writeln("<frame src=\""+lang+"/button.html\" name=\"buttons\" noresize scrolling=\"no\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" frameborder=\"0\">"); document.writeln("<frame src=\""+lang+"/fs_menu.html\" name=\"main\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" frameborder=\"0\">"); document.writeln("<frame src=\""+lang+"/extra.html\" name=\"extra\" noresize scrolling=\"no\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" frameborder=\"0\">"); document.writeln("</frameset>");
</script>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
A:link {text-decoration: none}
A:visited {text-decoration: none}
body {margin:0px}
-->
</style>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#000000" vlink="#000000" text="#000000" alink="#000000">
<!--shop title--><H1>Buy flags-The Flag Shop.co.uk</H1>
The Flag Shop UK:Buy flags, buy national flags, buy football flags, buy car flags, buy world flags,UK flags and buy bunting securley on line.
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<FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT color=#000000><FONT color=#000080>&#10</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><P dir=ltr align=center><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT color=#000000><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><STRONG>Welcome to the UK Flag Shop</STRONG> <FONT color=#000000>h</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000>ere you can&nbsp;buy UK flags, world flags, car flags &amp;&nbsp;bunting</FONT> <STRONG>securely on line. </STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Our flags are made of</FONT> <STRONG>quality </STRONG><FONT color=#000000>polyester&nbsp;&amp; are&nbsp;great value for money<STRONG>. </STRONG>We aim to dispatch all flags&nbsp;within 48 hours &amp; </FONT><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>remember</FONT> <FONT color=#ff0000>the price you see is the price you&nbsp;pay, free delivery to the UK &amp;&nbsp;NO hidden costs, most flags just £8.99.</FONT></STRONG></font></font></font></font></font></font><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><FONT face=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular><STRONG><FONT color=#000000><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A href="http://www.eurowebhosting.com/gb/images/logo_worldpay.gif" target=_top></A></FONT></FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>&#10<UL>&#10<UL>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT><STRONG><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_1.html">UK Flags</A></STRONG></FONT>-<FONT color=#808080><STRONG>The most popular flags from&nbsp;around the UK.</STRONG></FONT></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT color=#00ffff><STRONG> <A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_2.html"><FONT color=#000080>European Flags</FONT></A></STRONG></FONT>- <STRONG><FONT color=#808080>Over 50 flags from around Europe.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <STRONG><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_4.html"><FONT color=#000080>World Flags</FONT></A></STRONG>-<STRONG><FONT color=#808080>Over&nbsp;140 flags from&nbsp;&nbsp;around the world.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <STRONG><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_16.html"><FONT color=#000080>American Flags</FONT></A></STRONG>-<STRONG><FONT color=#808080>Flags from all 50 States.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <STRONG><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_5.html"><FONT color=#000080>Car Flags</FONT></A></STRONG>-<STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT color=#808080>Jazz up any car with our quality car flags.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_15.html"><FONT color=#000080>Other Flags</FONT></A></STRONG>-<STRONG><FONT color=#808080>Pirate, Checkered,&nbsp;Olympic, Gay&nbsp;Etc.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI>&#10<LI>&#10<DIV style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" align=left>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_6.html"><FONT color=#00ffff> </FONT><FONT color=#000080>Bunting</FONT></A></STRONG>-<STRONG><FONT color=#808080>A selection of bunting for any occasion.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></LI></UL></UL>
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<H2 align=center><FONT color=#008080><FONT color=#ff0000>*NEW*</FONT>&nbsp;<A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_3.html"><FONT color=#000080>Just In&nbsp;<EM><FONT color=#008080>Giant</FONT></EM> Flags</FONT></A> </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>*NEW*</FONT></H2>&#10<P align=center><IMG height=1 src="../media/bar.gif" width=600 border=0></P>&#10<H6 align=center>Copyright © 2002&nbsp;The Flag Shop. All Rights Reserved.We are commited to your satisfaction to contact us please email &nbsp;<A href="mailto:info@theflagshop.co.uk">info@theflagshop.co.uk</A></H6>&#10<CENTER>&#10<H6><FONT color=#008080><A href="http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/en-gb/dept_21.html">LINKS</A></FONT></H6></CENTER>
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Old June 15th, 2003, 06:50 AM
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Firestarter, A couple of people have mentioned this but i am a complete novice, not code savy, and unsure of how to go about it.
Is the java effecting my page rank : i only have a handfull of inbound links which dont show when i click on backlinks on the toolbar, and am still waiting (isnt everybody) to get a listing in dmoz.
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Old June 15th, 2003, 07:18 AM
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This Java-Script is similar to Doorway-technique, but at the moment Google cant read Java-Script - that means at the Moment there is no Problem to use this - but better do out the Links to Shopfactory and the other Sites, that not belongs to you - dont spend them youre PR - because if you give them Links from youre Mainpage all of youre other Pages will miss some PR.

If you need help to do this just let me know - in can do it for you
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Old June 16th, 2003, 05:23 PM
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nice site look wuts with the monkey on the bottom corner though?
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I agree with awall19.

Frames are a no-no typically because search engines cant get the info they need when you use them.

If you must use frames, then make sure you use the <noframes>tag so that all browserws can access your information

Also agreed with with awall19 is putting your javascript off the source file, and calling it from your web file due to the fact that spiders cant read javascript at the moment!
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