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Old February 18th, 2009, 07:29 PM
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well, good try but it won't last for long. . . what we need is long lasting good result.
won't last long!!! What won't last long - the absence of any rankings???
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That's interesting - and dissapointing.
I'd be interested in Madison replying to this thread, his results were outstanding, maybehe can shed some light on what's different.
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1. I have only 3 crappy one post blogs (self created) - motime, vox, googlepages + one link from wikia search's white list.
2. A single link I made posting my URL in a completely unrelated blog as a comment (PR0) i might add - podcurry
3. A few links from my domain itself, linking back to the homepage (internal links).
...so it had other incoming links.
Also the "KID" - (domain name: engagementrings.net)
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The "TEST" wasn't "TESTING" the Value Of Forum Backlinks for an average domain... it was testing them "WITH AN EXACT MATCH OF THE QUERY STRING ALSO USED IN THE DOMAIN...

...for anyone else to gain similar results you'd need to purchase an exact match for the domain to gain the value of forum links... which suggests... the real test was what performance can you get with an exact matched Keyword Domain from the lowest of quality links.
This test is less prone to "distortion" from "other influences"... Although - playing Devils Advocate - it could also be that "link profiles" are "monitored" and a "100% forum links" profile is penalised somehow; and it could be affected by the size of the site and/or the fact that it's in a sub-domain etc...

In fact the two tests together are interesting - Madisons test seemed to show that MSN were really not fussy about the backlink source, so if gazzahks site fails to rank for anything on MSN, it is perhaps an indication that it was the "other links / KID" that did it for Madison's MSN results.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 08:28 PM
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what I mean the result is not permanent, it won't give you permanent position. . . It happen to me though.

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Well I was a bit bored today so i decided to test Madison findings. I have added a sig link to a nothing page I just created on a free website site. Added a link to my sig. I do not expect this page to rank at all.

But we will see.....

other related thread


http://forums.seochat.com/seo-test-and-experimentation-81/value-of-forum-backlinks-test-completed-183261.html

I also decided a small test see my signature a anchor tag with SEO Company New Delhi for seo office now this website top on MSN with this keywords My conclusion Signature links work for MSN ranking but not for Google and Yahoo.

I am awaiting for experts view on this.......
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Old February 19th, 2009, 01:14 AM
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I also decided a small test see my signature a anchor tag with SEO Company New Delhi for seo office now this website top on MSN with this keywords My conclusion Signature links work for MSN ranking but not for Google and Yahoo.

I am awaiting for experts view on this.......
Stan it is only the first link in your signature that is followed. All the others are 'nofollowed'. Thus the link to this comapny in your signature cannot be having the effect you are attributing to it as it is a nofollow link!

edit: this website has 1000's of different links linking to it.... Check in yahoo.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 02:26 AM
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edit: this website has 1000's of different links linking to it.... Check in yahoo.

But I didn't get any links with particular anchor tag even we never mentioned new Delhi on our title or content OK we mentioned Delhi on title.
But before adding this we are not in top ten on this keywords it may be possible I am using same anchor tag on others seo forums like seo.com, seorefugee, digital point.......

Now I am going to change my anchor tag for my signature now it will link building India. now we are 2nd page on msn from this title this will first link for seo office . I have to see what happen.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:51 AM
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Yes I got your point actually if I linked internal page, but internal page also getting link juice from home page.
For new experiment we need to create new website or blog we wiill have to depend only forum links like your signature than we find a good conclusion for forum links value in different search engine thanks Gerry.
Now I will create a blog and I linked from this form......

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Isnt the fact that 1600 links have just popped up on this site with the same anchor text causing the spam or paid link filter to be activated? If you could vary your anchor text (i.e. wedding engagement rings, my engagement rings, engagement ring etc) and staggered your links in time, do you think it would make a difference?

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Old February 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM
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Isnt the fact that 1600 links have just popped up on this site with the same anchor text causing the spam or paid link filter to be activated? If you could vary your anchor text (i.e. wedding engagement rings, my engagement rings, engagement ring etc) and staggered your links in time, do you think it would make a difference?
With forum signature links this will never be possible. What is more likley is that the SEs count all the links as a single link. Thus a forum link is just like having 1 link and not 1600.

On a side note you are right. If you can get a site to link to different pages of your site with different anchor texts (and iff possible from different pages) you will see more benefit then a sitewide type link going to one page with identical anchor text.
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Well I was a bit bored today so i decided to test Madison findings. I have added a sig link to a nothing page I just created on a free website site. Added a link to my sig. I do not expect this page to rank at all.

But we will see.....


I can see your signature link has been cached on Google.

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This is great! Can't believe I missed this! Been busy.

Looks like KIDs do kick butt after all, could it really have been a couple of silly links?

Maybe, maybe.
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Looks like KIDs do kick butt after all,


No it only shows that links from unrelated sources don't do a thing.

If KIDs where the mighty value you suggest wouldn't "all of them" that have the same KIDs be ranked equally well?

Since (assumes your arugements is correct) you only need links from unrelated sources you'd think you'd see...

keywordkeyword.com
keywordkeyword.net
keywordkeyword.org
keywordkeyword.co.uk
keywordkeyword.ca
keywordkeyword.me
keywordkeyword.nu

...with just the crappiest links around.
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No it only shows that links from unrelated sources don't do a thing.

If KIDs where the mighty value you suggest wouldn't "all of them" that have the same KIDs be ranked equally well?

Since (assumes your arugements is correct) you only need links from unrelated sources you'd think you'd see...

keywordkeyword.com
keywordkeyword.net
keywordkeyword.org
keywordkeyword.co.uk
keywordkeyword.ca
keywordkeyword.me
keywordkeyword.nu

...with just the crappiest links around.


Anyone got any great KIDs to try this with? The problem is most people that have great kid's just let them sit in their parked accounts waiting for someone to come along and try to buy them so they can turn a profit.

With my sig link now removed and the rest of its links being removed today, I suppose time will tell how much value the KID itself has, or at the least produce another discussion
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Great post dude,Thanks alot......for sharing.You are so helpful......

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Update

The page now has 3357 links showing from yahoo. It only shows up in yahoo with very large amounts of exact text match and even then other pages beat it. I included some spelling mistakes to see if it ranked for them It does not.

It is listed in google but shows for nothing unless you use large amounts of text in "" . Other then that it shows for domain name only (only checked first few pages of searches)

MSN hasnt listed the page yet.

My conclusion so far. If you think a link from this forum is going to help your site rank you are mistaken.

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Ok... but do forum links help in PR or SERPs? I heard they help a lot.
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