Page 2 - Keyword density experiment

I've already tested kw density on pages w/no content long before the penalty stage came out and it makes a difference.

In fact, it seriously affects your quality and grading score in Google ppc.

I have a client that has the same kw phrase but just in 4 html comment tags and in 4 alt img tags and its running a great rating via google ppc and performs great. Just a cut up pic on the index, same landing page for 20+ exact versions or derivitives. And the site have dozens of keyword that perform well on certain kw's that aren't even on the landing page, but are in the site.

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Which suggests what... you rank better for ads because you use a higher density? NOT LIKELY!

...maybe it suggests a good rational to run PPC on a different "non-crawled" directory, sub-domain, or domain because the nuance of PPC is different than organics. What you say here?

Everyone I'm sure has dozen of pages that rank well because of "BACKLINKS" and "TITLES".... but no one has dozen of pages that rank well based solely on KWD of the page... which suggests "ranks didn't really occur because you have 6 phrases and everyone has 1-5 or 7-100 making "6" the best density. [example only)

making an argument that a KWD of 0% is best.

Good idea! I think this is the best approach because we will have the same page so everything will be exactly the same except for the change in density.

I have no problems with this experiment and I tend to doubt anyone else will... if you need anything I am sure any of us mods will be glad to help.

I don't see this as an experiment to see if keyword density is a factor or not as I have already concluded it is indeed dead from my own research. Instead it is an experiment proving what we already know.

Ok dokie. Let's fasten our seatbelts and enjoy this experiment. My views for this one is that we kept all other factors constant and varies only keyword density (Basic principle of OFAT, one factor at a time experiment,I learn this when I study engineering statistics). This is to reduce experiment noise/errors in our conclusions later.

Can I take that as a yes then. I am in thailand on holidays at the moment (my favorite holiday desination) I will organise it next week when I am back in hk. I will send pro_seo the different threads with the different KWD in them for each day.

I know that many people would have different ideas but I wil doing this like I posted in my last post.

If others wish to test something different than I suggest organising a different experiment... After all this is why this particular forum was created.

On holiday but still posting here -- that's dedication! I'd quickly find myself single again if I tried that

Then proceed... if you need anything let us know.

UNLESS a null is produced. You are assuming that increasing density will make returned results go up or down... what if they don't move?

What if they (seen low density phrases in results) move but movement is due to competing pages changing? ..that would produce false-positives.

You can't make observations in real results "unless" you have control over all competing domains... they won't play your game if there isn't anything in it for them and/or they don't know you are experimenting.

Surely this defeats the purpose of the experiment doesn't... "to provide conclusive accumulated evidence that KWD" does something, does nothing much, or does nothing...

Obviously working within a bunch of false positives merely supports exactly what you have now... supporting evidence that a bunch of opinions on either side could be correct...

Why bother doing anything then if that return is acceptable?

Hello Friends,

I finally have got the permission from the other Mods and from Jon as well. Haven't heard from ClickyB and GTSG yet but I guess they will be looking forward to it as well

So I believe that we are all ready to start off.

Gazzahk, just PM me whatever you want and I'll get it done.

In the meantime, have a great vacation

Hi,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you Pro... I only just logged in here today (have been real busy).

Absolutely no problem from my end, (JC is the only person you really need permission from imho)... I'm looking forward to seeing the results too