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Old February 28th, 2008, 07:33 AM
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what language would you prefer in web developing?? explain why...

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English - coz it's universally accepted
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Depends on the site.

If the site is providing service all over the world - English.

If the site is providing service to a particular region (like: spain,china and all other places where language can be an issue) - Language of that region.

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LOL...I guess he is asking about the programming language rather than Language in the literal sense.

I will pass on this question to the developers....darn! I wish I knew a bit of programming

I guess such questions are best suited for the devshed forum - but of course we have members here who can answer it accurately as well

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LOL...I guess he is asking about the programming language rather than Language in the literal sense.

I will pass on this question to the developers....darn! I wish I knew a bit of programming

I guess such questions are best suited for the devshed forum - but of course we have members here who can answer it accurately as well



LOL... that's what i mean.

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For a large site - I'd go for PHP, purely because I'm familiar with it. I have limited experience with other scripts, such as ASP.
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For a large site - I'd go for PHP, purely because I'm familiar with it. I have limited experience with other scripts, such as ASP.


is PHP can be easily learned... even by self studying??

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Make a google search!!

Post in a proper place!!
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Don't pop in to threads and post questions unrelated to the thread. And for questions as simple as that a simple, very simple google search or SeoChat site search would give you the answer from thousands of sites...
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is PHP can be easily learned... even by self studying??


I find the best way to understand something like PHP/other programming languages is to actually use them. Practise using PHP on your own site. Read up on tutorials and actually try to do/copy what they do in their examples and see if it works.

PHP is not an easy language to learn, no. It took me a while to grasp the fundamentals (a matter of months).

I don't know everything there is to know about PHP (who on Earth does?) - it's possibilities are endless.

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I find the best way to understand something like PHP/other programming languages is to actually use them. Practise using PHP on your own site. Read up on tutorials and actually try to do/copy what they do in their examples and see if it works.

PHP is not an easy language to learn, no. It took me a while to grasp the fundamentals (a matter of months).

I don't know everything there is to know about PHP (who on Earth does?) - it's possibilities are endless.



wow .. thanks... i really want to learn more about php.. thanks again

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The three major choices for web programming are PHP, JAVA, and ASP.

I highly recommend PHP for lots of reasons. It's very easy to learn, portable, and popular.

Portable is great because you can write applications that can run on any server platform. Popular is great because there are many great applications available for free (Wordpress for example).

As of PHP4 it now supports object oriented programming which is an important design strategy as your applications become larger and more complex.

To be fair I should mention that PHP is a scripted language and is not pre-compiled so it is potentially slower than other languages at runtime, but honestly that is almost never the bottleneck to web/database applications. The real bottleneck is bad program design, poor SQL queries, redundant calls etc.

I actually use Zend Platform w/ PHP5 which does some precompilation and seriously speeds up certain types of PHP code.
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JAVA is a fantastic language as well. It is totally object oriented which forces you to use OO design right from the start. It is portable (with a few technical caveats). It is ideal for large multi-developer projects and has a HUGE API of functions to pull from. It is more difficult to learn than PHP IMO but once you learn it you have an extremely powerful tool at your fingertips.

JAVA can also be used to create desktop applications that run on any computer with the JRE. This is a draw for some developers vs. PHP which is used almost exclusively for server/client applications.

The reason I recommend PHP for webdev vs. JAVA is that there is some overhead you get from Object Oriented design that is sometimes unnecessary. This basically means that it can take longer to develop the same program. PHP now fully supports Object Oriented design, but you have a choice to whip out some procedural scripts if you want/need to.

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I studied .NET programming in school. I am seriously biased against MS so I'm not going to tear it apart, but my experience not not great. You tend to wind up with a lot of code and Visual Studio (their IDE) is a huge pig on resources.

You also have to run .NET apps on an IIS server so you are now forced to host your apps on Microsoft Servers. PHP on the other hand runs on Linux, Mac OS, IIS, Sun and pretty much any platform out there. Portability can be very important and for this reason alone I don't recommend ASP.

To be fair there are some good points: ASP.net supports multiple programming languages C#, C++, VB etc. A properly configured IIS server stores compiled pages in memory and manages that memory queu very elegantly.

I admit that there are some seriously cool applications written in ASP but I would never develop apps that don't run on Linux servers so it's just not a viable option for me.

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There are other choices too. Python, Ruby, and C++ can all be used to create web apps. I do use C++ every once in a blue moon for some mission critical apps that need to be fast, but usually to interface with other system components and cron scripts as opposed to standard web apps.
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The three major choices for web programming are PHP, JAVA, and ASP.

I highly recommend PHP for lots of reasons. It's very easy to learn, portable, and popular.

Portable is great because you can write applications that can run on any server platform. Popular is great because there are many great applications available for free (Wordpress for example).

As of PHP4 it now supports object oriented programming which is an important design strategy as your applications become larger and more complex.

To be fair I should mention that PHP is a scripted language and is not pre-compiled so it is potentially slower than other languages at runtime, but honestly that is almost never the bottleneck to web/database applications. The real bottleneck is bad program design, poor SQL queries, redundant calls etc.

I actually use Zend Platform w/ PHP5 which does some precompilation and seriously speeds up certain types of PHP code.
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JAVA is a fantastic language as well. It is totally object oriented which forces you to use OO design right from the start. It is portable (with a few technical caveats). It is ideal for large multi-developer projects and has a HUGE API of functions to pull from. It is more difficult to learn than PHP IMO but once you learn it you have an extremely powerful tool at your fingertips.

JAVA can also be used to create desktop applications that run on any computer with the JRE. This is a draw for some developers vs. PHP which is used almost exclusively for server/client applications.

The reason I recommend PHP for webdev vs. JAVA is that there is some overhead you get from Object Oriented design that is sometimes unnecessary. This basically means that it can take longer to develop the same program. PHP now fully supports Object Oriented design, but you have a choice to whip out some procedural scripts if you want/need to.

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I studied .NET programming in school. I am seriously biased against MS so I'm not going to tear it apart, but my experience not not great. You tend to wind up with a lot of code and Visual Studio (their IDE) is a huge pig on resources.

You also have to run .NET apps on an IIS server so you are now forced to host your apps on Microsoft Servers. PHP on the other hand runs on Linux, Mac OS, IIS, Sun and pretty much any platform out there. Portability can be very important and for this reason alone I don't recommend ASP.

To be fair there are some good points: ASP.net supports multiple programming languages C#, C++, VB etc. A properly configured IIS server stores compiled pages in memory and manages that memory queu very elegantly.

I admit that there are some seriously cool applications written in ASP but I would never develop apps that don't run on Linux servers so it's just not a viable option for me.

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There are other choices too. Python, Ruby, and C++ can all be used to create web apps. I do use C++ every once in a blue moon for some mission critical apps that need to be fast, but usually to interface with other system components and cron scripts as opposed to standard web apps.


i also have a little knowledge on .net(ASP) but i think i will stick first on PHP until i have learned its basic concepts.... especially when i'm doing it with mysql.. I'm still studying it at home after my work

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