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Old September 8th, 2004, 05:43 AM
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Wanted: SEO Freelancer for regular work.

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+ Must be able to achieve PR7
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+ Enthusiastic youngsters welcome so long as they have good time availability.
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Old September 8th, 2004, 07:27 PM
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just curious why do you want a pr 7 , don't people usually want there sites to rank well for specific terms?

what will a pr7 do?

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Old September 9th, 2004, 07:38 PM
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I would assume that terms & ranks are a given... would suspect however, "if" the person can achieve this level "each and every time" that would be about 100K a year freelance job... wouldn't you?
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Old September 10th, 2004, 05:58 AM
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I was under the impression that PR especially toolbar PR hadnt been updated for quite a while now.

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Old September 10th, 2004, 06:15 AM
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I'm probably able to achieve PR7 (I'm on dir.PR 5.5 now) but I don't know WHEN it's gonna happen. Regular work, time avail. any country, 100k???? I'm game. LOL

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What is the salary budget, and the keywords you are targeting?

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Cool Google Sandbox

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I was under the impression that PR especially toolbar PR hadnt been updated for quite a while now.

Do a search on most of the seo forums for the google sandbox or the March filter and you will see that google has not updated PR for some time and are projecting a major upgrad to the algos in the first week of Oct.
Just FYI

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Old September 18th, 2004, 02:19 AM
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Do a search on most of the seo forums for the google sandbox or the March filter and you will see that google has not updated PR for some time and are projecting a major upgrad to the algos in the first week of Oct.
Just FYI


Unfortunately "no one " can correctly identify what "sandbox" is "precisely" and Google 100% denies its existence.

My defintion of SANDBOX - Anything that an average SEO can't seem to explain through logical reasoning is attributed to a mythological phenemona known by all perfessionals as a "catch all" for simple descriptive explanation and better than saying "I don't know"!

Also: Merely a way of explaining the unexplainable - regardless of factual evidence. In other words - we (average SEOs) don't have any evidence - so it must be sandbox! :-P

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My keyword was in spot #5 for one month... now it isn't in the first 1,000 results. What else can you call this?
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Old September 18th, 2004, 03:18 AM
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G may deny the existence of the sandbox (or even the march filter once they've read all this), but surely they can't deny the new sites boost. It's all related of course. What is it that takes away the new sites boost effect? It's bound to be a filter of some kind, right? So it may be true that mediocre SEOs cry Sandbox when they just can't compete, but no-one can convince me (well hasn't up to now) that there is no filter whatsoever.

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Old September 18th, 2004, 04:03 AM
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G may deny the existence of the sandbox (or even the march filter once they've read all this), but surely they can't deny the new sites boost. It's all related of course. What is it that takes away the new sites boost effect? It's bound to be a filter of some kind, right? So it may be true that mediocre SEOs cry Sandbox when they just can't compete, but no-one can convince me (well hasn't up to now) that there is no filter whatsoever.


Well I call this a few things:

1. Fresh Crawling (your in and then your out)

2. No recent comprehensive update (in what 110 days about)

3. Recently noted - better duplicate content detection

4. Recently noted - rapid changes; increase in links are discounted (particualrly at higher PR levels)

5. Recently noted - site wide links where same destination URL, same anchor text, and same linking page position are discounted

Probably a few more - but off the cuff... are all of these "sandbox"?

...or just "what they are"?

I assume "sandbox" implies the site owner hasn't done anything to manipulate results (intentionally or unintentionally) and Google it not interested in "new" anymore.

I posted new last Sunday, on Tuesday it was #1 on a few terms, #3 - #10 on a bunch, #11 - #50 on lots and Google never saw it before (totally new content & URL... does this suggest that I'm excluded from sandbox (whatever it is) or that the investigation on other sites are inconclusive and fishing for an answer.

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Old September 18th, 2004, 04:16 AM
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Yes, I fully agree that the filter is now very much based on quality rather than age (alone). But I'd call the discounting of links a filter (even in dutch ;) ).

And I'm certain no-one here who KNOWS about SEO would call the sandbox or whatever his only reason for failure, at least not if he (/she) has only a tiny bit of self-consciousness.

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Fryman - PM the URL and term... I'll take a quick look... it's likely something that has been overlooked and a fresh pair of eye may shed some light.

Beats - sitting in a box without a shovel, or tonka truck!

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Sendbox effect especially applies to new websites that target middle and high competitive keywords. Top ranking in these areas can be achieved only if you have quality content and qulity inbound links. And the weight of links pointing new websites is diminished. I think this is not fair toward new sites...

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