WANTED - Performance-Based SEO

Looking for a qualified, experienced, and well referenced SEO pro looking to establish a partnership with my business to market our various products/services on a performance-based compensation program.

We are not looking to make any deposit, though I believe that our reputation should stand for itself and have no problem signing a contact. Escrow might be a possibility if there is a great deal of concern.

Too many people claim to be SEO "professionals" and ultimately take a deposit or fee and produce no results. My company is prepared to accept thousands of new sales and as such, our budget is "limitless" provided we are paying per performance.

If anyone feels they would be interested in this opportunity and they meet the above requirements, please visit my website at www.nevidia.com and look around, I can be reached best via email at bjaskolka@nevidia.com.

Thanks!

Hello Nevidia, why not try typing seo company into google and see who comes top. A good seo company should be able to rank its own website.

l1234244...that's one way to do it. Type it in and then click on the second entry, read the forums, and go from there.

Hi Nevidia, you are quite right, however, traditional business protocols work both ways.

Your asking the SEO to take the all risks and not assume any yourself, plus likely not to invest in getting to the top.

As I understand your website is "hosting" - the general time expectancy to fruition in your specific undustry would be a very long term - why? You are so bloody far behind.

Unfortunately, that a limitation of your current business and not really a limitation of any SEO (whether they are experienced or not)... and you are asking the SEO to assume your late arrival (conclusion) that SEO is important to your business.

You will need a few things before any performance based service provider would attmept this (at least the experienced ones).

A forum/blog pulling the community weight of 2K posts a month, a directory gaining submissions at about 100 per day, and a dozen other hosters in partnership all doing the exact same thing.

You come with that, as your advance payment... and I can possibly help.

Unfortunately, you are a liability to any SEO that isn't willing to put 100K "in advance" to pay other companies to do the above in your sted.

You make some valid points, and some poor assumptions.

If you will have looked at my website, you will have noticed that we are not a "Hosting" company, but rather a full-service ISP that does web design, hosting, SSL certificates, and eCommerce.

Because we made a descision to not focus on hosting SEO prior does not mean that we are "too far behind the ball". We are if we want to be #1 for "hosting" (which we don't), but certainly not for TONS of other search terms that are not that competitive and I myself as a non-SEO expert was able to do quite well in.

As for risk, I have no problem putting funds in escrow ... but at the end of the day, am I going to pay somebody TONS of cash because they were successful before, or might be this time? NOPE! I've got 4 other advertising agencies working for me all delivering strong sales on a Cost-Per-Sale basis ... in the hosting area I might add.

Just because "YOU" might not be able to do it, doesn't mean somebody else can't.

Often, SEO work is a strong investment of time vs. actual funds. If somebody's willing to stake their time in exchange for a potentially lucrative contract, tells me they have a lot of confidence in what they do and that they can posssibly be successful.

If all of these socalled SEO experts are so great, then why aren't you all out there marketing your own businesses instead of somebody elses???

Hahahahaha so simple, yet genious! Thanks for the brain un-freeze!

Still looking for other parties who might be interested.

As some more specifics, specifically looking to re-optimize all departments for the company (Hosting, Design, Security, Domains) for a new site launch Jan. 1st, 05.

Would consider 1, or multiple professionals for the entire project.

We have a very strong conversion rating even in the most competitive catagories, I am a PPC marketing expert and have advertised all over (Google, Overture, special directories, etc ... ) so I can assure you that the service most definately does SELL.

I just want to sell more ;-)

Thanks all!

Any additional advice certainly welcome!

Great! How much of your website is dedicated to each? In SEO this defines your successes or SEO failure.



I think you need to continue being quite successful yourself... clearly in these areas your appreciation of SEO practices is quite good.



As you eloquently stated Time is Money and terms are in the millions unfortuately you don't have the necessary depth and breadth of content (in any category) to capitalize on any "quickly".



LOL you're so funny!

It is sort of funny how many people hang out on forums being experts but then don't have their own site rank for anything

Wasn't trying to be funny, I think its a valid point. The previous comment about searching on google for an SEO company is actually a fantastic example of this I think. If "you" (a collective you, no personal offense intended) are so great at what you do then why aren't you ranked #1 for SEO on Google?

As far as your comment re: depth and breadth of content, there are lots of different ways to generate SEO traffic that I myself am aware of, including content-oriented sites that drive traffic to an ultimate "company" site.

I would be probably quite reluctant to ever turn my website into the "depth and breadth" site that would be able to quickly rank well, because my experience has shown what ranks well in SEO terms isn't necessarily good business ... lest we forget the ultimate purpose of SEO is to make more sales ... hard to sell anything if your site is filled with tons of pages of crap (or even great content) that really dilutes your business message.

I am! (we are)



Sure thing - unfortunately they all cost something and as I understand you explicitly implied "all upfront costs are at the SEOs risk"... and you only wish to share rewards in exchange for someone assuming all risks on your behave.



I can honestly say with 100% certainty here - "he who knows not and knows not that he knows not... is a fool, ignore him.



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My reputation stands for itself and as I do "only" performance-based SEO and commission-based - I think we can agree that I know a little on the subject.



Too many clients want the success but are not willing to do what it takes to gain that success.

Money, time, know how and an opportunity are the primary parts of the equation - but if you wish not to give any of the former 3 and the latter is currently not too successful without the SEO - why does the SEO need you?

I didn't realize seochat was fathom's site

"why does the SEO need you?"

that is sort of true, if you understood the magnitude of the some of the internet service related search terms you might understand more

right not for terms like "web hosting" there are sites with 500,000 - 1,000,000 backlinks

you would have generate thousands of links a day for years to get in there

Secondly if an seo created a site that ranked for "web hosting" or any other internet service on his own time , why not keep it for him/herself

what would take to set a small hosting company a few bucks and week of time, then just keep 100% of the profit , instead of sharing it with some guy who has invested nothing in the venture

I am doing a site for someone right now who got burned by an seo company, with no money down, buts its my site, my domain. And its not that competitive , so it just took some of my spare time to do, something in internet services would be like a fulltime job

LOL, now that's like me saying why do I need an SEO guy, i can pay somebody to make links for me LOL

There are a LOT of reasons why I am very sure legitimate SEO professionals would have little->no interest in getting involved in running their own businesses for the services/products they sell ... though I am sure that enough do.

Again however, I see the same comments "industry's too big", "can't break in" ... if you tell yourself you will never succeed, you will always be telling the truth!

Nevidia - you missed the point of this discussion.

You say "lucrative" - and I believe in general the industry is... however, I don't believe you are specifically... at least enough to make the time investment worth while.

Your belief "show me the money" e.g. I want an SEO that can actually produce... is no different than any SEO saying the same thing... "show me the money" that after I make you successful that I can make more than I normally would in return as I assume all the risks of the relationship.

Marketing is risky, SEO is risky, just like any other business is risky.

You can't normally make others accountable for marketing your own business if you don't want to, and moreso... the first question I would ask (if interested) - if it's so lucrative - why are you not willing to take more than "zero" risk?

You may indeed find someone foolish enough to move forward - but I doubt it.

I got agree with fathom, that entire industry is so competitive you would really need a few SEO's working on that site on a full time basis. I would not want to spend all my time and not have any revenue coming in from all that work. Your best option is to setup an affiliate program. This way if someone works with you and if they produce they get paid and if they are not happy about working with you, they can just switch to another ISP affiliate program as opposed to working directly for you and not being able to make switch.

" i can pay somebody to make links for me LOL"

that is exactly what you want someone to do

500,000 - 1,000,000 them

without paying anything