SEO Professionals
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsOtherSEO Professionals

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #16  
Old April 6th, 2005, 10:56 PM
fryman's Avatar
fryman fryman is offline
Master of the cave
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Mexico
Posts: 1,533 fryman User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)fryman User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 21 h 27 m 36 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Send a message via MSN to fryman
Living in Mexico really sucks. I would love to get a job as a SEO and earn 40k a year... but here people don't know what a SEO even is. People use the net to chat and look for porn, nothing else.

So, I just focus on my own sites and try to get some experience, hoping that one day I will be able to find an opening for a related job. I love working on the net, and this would be a dream job for me. Payment wouldn't be so important, I would be happy to be able to work on what I love.
Comments on this post
EGOL agrees: Someday someone smart will hire you to scout backlinks for them.

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old April 6th, 2005, 11:06 PM
sorvoja's Avatar
sorvoja sorvoja is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,547 sorvoja User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)sorvoja User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)sorvoja User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)sorvoja User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)sorvoja User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 6 Days 1 h 11 m 41 sec
Reputation Power: 11
I got a offer of 315.000 NOK/year (about 52500 US$) and I was thinking very hard about it for a while. They would let me do any outside consulting on my own time so it was impossible for me to accept the offer at that time.

It would be nice to work in a large organization some day.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old April 7th, 2005, 12:45 AM
gchaney's Avatar
gchaney gchaney is offline
Mr. Goober Guy ;)
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 1,321 gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)gchaney User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 15 h 57 m 28 sec
Reputation Power: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by EGOL
There are SEOs and there are SEOs. Some are worth their weight in gold and some aren't worth a sack of ****.

If you are an SEO or think you are an SEO ask yourself how much money are you making... there you have it.

My first line up there was a little harsh as some people might still be on the learning curve and some might be in the startup phase of their first biz. It comes down simply to how hard you are willing to work and how hard you are willing to think. And how much time you spend bull****ting or on smoke breaks.


lol...I couldn't give you any rep for this ... outstanding!

I consider myself a sack of potato's. I hope soon to graduate to a bag of french fries and eventually end up at my local Mc Donalds. Maybe I'll get lucky and the hot chick across the street will get me in her order. ;)

If you are truly good at SEO, as EGOL aptly describes from being an SEO to really doing SEO, You should have no trouble attaining 6 figures a year working on your own entities. When you account for taxes and cost of insurance one would think, based upon a 6 figure gross income, that 70k to 80K a year is a very fair salary. Much depends on what you are making on your own vs time invested compared to what it would cost you in terms of hours, office politics, freedom and net income.

I would personally laugh at anyone that offered me 45K unless it was a 3 hour a day job and my commute consisted entirely of getting out of bed....I most certainly will eclipse that 45K just sleeping in the rest of the year.....I'm the guy EGOL says spends to much time bull****ting and I do take way to many smoke breaks (got my patches last week and just pumping myself up for the big dive to quit)....I almost had to blush EGOL then I realized ya didn't mention me beer. ;)

In either case, there is no security except the "Tax Man Come'th" and the unemployment line awaits. You can always count on the security of knowing both will be there for you when you least expect it.
Comments on this post
EarlGrey agrees: i like you mr Gchaney and i havent had the chance to get in touch with you alately - we are going to
have to catch up soon
__________________
Cheerios!

New to SEO? See the FAQ!

My Disclaimer:
Don't Listen To Me - I know nothing!

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old April 10th, 2005, 08:54 AM
cwsteam.com cwsteam.com is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Chandigarh, India
Posts: 517 cwsteam.com User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 9 h 28 m 18 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Send a message via ICQ to cwsteam.com Send a message via AIM to cwsteam.com Send a message via MSN to cwsteam.com Send a message via Yahoo to cwsteam.com
gchaney, I 100% agree with you.
__________________
Web Site Promotion India - Web Site Design India - Buy SiteWideLinks : $9.99 Links - PM Me if you need - Call 1.877.822.0875 for all kinds of Web Design, SEO - Link Building - Directory Submission Services.

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old June 25th, 2005, 02:52 PM
romeoplank romeoplank is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1 romeoplank User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 10 m 9 sec
Reputation Power: 0
I'm an SEO for one of the big 3.

Hey all. I work for one of the big 3, meaning MSN, Yahoo, and Google. I've been doing it for over 3 years now, and as the market has grown, the job has changed dramatically. SEO's for the big 3, like private firms, now have heavy client interaction, and next/same day deadlines. I make about 60k a year. It ain't a bad gig, but honestly, considering the amount of money I see clients spend on proposals I write, my salary is fairly modest. I feel worth 70 -75k at least, but then again, who doesn't want more.

Hope that helps.

Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old June 25th, 2005, 07:11 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,874 randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 12 h 54 m 32 sec
Reputation Power: 11
romeo - Are you saying you work directly for Google, MSN or Yahoo! or that you do optimization work for clients at those 3 engines - I think that's what all of us do

Welcome to SEOChat, BTW!

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old June 25th, 2005, 08:53 PM
bigdoug's Avatar
bigdoug bigdoug is offline
Domain Hatcher
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Highlands NC
Posts: 808 bigdoug User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)bigdoug User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)bigdoug User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)bigdoug User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 19 h 59 m 27 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Hope you work for Google...we need advice Brother
__________________
Nogga News

Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old June 26th, 2005, 04:33 PM
75c's Avatar
75c 75c is offline
Contriving Muser
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: $1,500 per sq m
Posts: 1,119 75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)75c User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 20 h 40 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 9
lol, I can't really imagine Google, Yahoo or MSN Search employing SEO staff - can you?



MCS
x

Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old June 26th, 2005, 04:38 PM
GeoffreyF67's Avatar
GeoffreyF67 GeoffreyF67 is offline
Resident Black Hat
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 1,437 GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 22 h 36 m 59 sec
Reputation Power: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by minicoopers
lol, I can't really imagine Google, Yahoo or MSN Search employing SEO staff - can you?



MCS
x


Yeah, I could see them doing that but I doubt they'd be posting then. We don't get much good info about The Algo from G Y or M

G-Man
__________________
Black Hat, White Hat and More!

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old June 26th, 2005, 07:35 PM
GeoffreyF67's Avatar
GeoffreyF67 GeoffreyF67 is offline
Resident Black Hat
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 1,437 GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 22 h 36 m 59 sec
Reputation Power: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by randfish
I'm in big trouble... I make less than most temporary manual laborers. But, I''m building a business, so maybe that's how it goes


Come to the darkside. It's much more profitable

G-Man

Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old June 26th, 2005, 08:00 PM
GeoffreyF67's Avatar
GeoffreyF67 GeoffreyF67 is offline
Resident Black Hat
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 1,437 GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)GeoffreyF67 User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 22 h 36 m 59 sec
Reputation Power: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by EGOL
It comes down simply to how hard you are willing to work and how hard you are willing to think. And how much time you spend bull****ting or on smoke breaks.


Or how much time you spend pissing around in the forums. I'm addicted. Need to go create a Forums Anonymous group or something

G-Man

Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old June 27th, 2005, 08:38 AM
ferret77 ferret77 is offline
Honesty is my only excuse
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 512 ferret77 User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)ferret77 User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 8 h 29 m 54 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Don't you guys think for the most part their are very few actual positions that pay what a good seo would be worth?

My old resume site ranks for some consulting terms so once in while I get the oddball call looking for me to move to some state to help some company.

I havn't updated the site in at least a year, mostly because I never thought it would be worth it to work for someone directly.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old June 27th, 2005, 01:04 PM
greatone greatone is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14 greatone User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 h 38 m 14 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Send a message via MSN to greatone Send a message via Yahoo to greatone
I think salary will depend also on where the seo specialist came from. In our country $35K - $40K is already acceptable and also considered hign since we a poor country.

Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old June 30th, 2005, 03:50 AM
luxurysleep's Avatar
luxurysleep luxurysleep is offline
EAT LEET!
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 446 luxurysleep User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)luxurysleep User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 3 h 16 m 2 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Send a message via AIM to luxurysleep
Well I have been making a living doing SEO work for 3 monthes now. I find most projects fall between $1200-5000k USD.

Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old June 30th, 2005, 10:51 AM
4Comparison's Avatar
4Comparison 4Comparison is offline
Punkawalla
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 170 4Comparison User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)4Comparison User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 6 h 55 m 33 sec
Reputation Power: 5
It is an interesting dilema.
SEO gets job.
SEO gets good.
SEO wakes up.
SEO works for self.

The only way I (rarely) do outside SEO is for a fee + percentage. Everyone wins.
__________________
"Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered."