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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM
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I am trying to find a company or person to help me build links to a site I am trying to promote. Where could I find such a person or company?

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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:12 PM
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Been quite a few articles on here lately about link building.

checkout the most recent on the home page.

and also checkout the link building ninja story that was in the last newsletter.

give some good ideas to get started yourself.

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i would like to say to hire a guy..
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Old August 29th, 2008, 05:38 AM
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I am trying to find a company or person to help me build links to a site I am trying to promote. Where could I find such a person or company?

Thanks,

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I'm sure there are many at all different budget levels but the only links that matter are the ones that actually work.

The problem with outsourcing this is the quality you want isn't often the quality you get and/or the cost to get the quality you want isn't sustainable.
  • The lowest price providers normally do site submission and never check to see if you are ever included [obviously not even reviewed means 'no help there]
  • The next up are likely reciprocating providers where you provide a return link... these can be worth a little but in my experience this is like fools gold... you can see all the recip you get but 99.99% are on the lowest quality pages thus the lowest quality help.
  • The next group are 3 way linkers - same as the previous but they have a resource for providing the linkback to your link partner (instead of your website]... the quality though is still the issue here 99.99% are on the lowest quality pages thus the lowest quality help.
  • The next group are text link brokers (or their users) and while this group are an innovative lot there's a major conflict here:
    1. high cost
    2. especially Google hunts these links down and killz'em!
    3.... making the cost to you even more bizarre!
  • The next group we'll call the PPI crowd... legit links, costly and effective but costs tends to escalate over time and effectiveness tends to depreciate primarily because they the grow of outgoing links exceed the growth of incoming ones.
  • The last group aren't reall link developers they are content creators for "linbait"... extremely costly but enormously effective.

Linkbait (also known as viral content) for any specific domain can cost at a minimum $10,000/developed asset. In fact, the very best linkbait starts at $10,000 just to cover planning costs.

In the event that you require ownership of the resources being developed we refer you to some superb colleagues:

SEOMoz http://www.seomoz.org/dp/seo-sem-services#viral starts at $10K/month.

SEOMoz also retains a list of other viral content service providers: http://www.seomoz.org/marketplace/companies/service/18

I highly recommend the latter linkbait routes for the most effective links you can acquire... if those are too rich for your needs/budget you may wish to try my approach with share linkbait @ http://www.catchnrelease.me.

You can some great links to start well the bait is being developed.
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Well you could go with Eric ward if you have the cash for it, this guy is a legend. google his name

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Thanks for the replies. I am looking for someone who will work with me and my budget. I would like someone who can build a small amount of links at first to get some verification that they do quality work.

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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:44 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I am looking for someone who will work with me and my budget.


Unfortunately, you are not likely to achieve that level of development because of everything I said previously is true.

What is quality workmanship? If a service provider provides links on top quality pages from top quality sites and Google determines that other pages from other website are even more 'top quality'... does this imply the service provider "screwed you"?

Verified links that do verified ranking work are worth alot more than "a link the may work but there isn't any way of telling in advance"... and that doesn't deter for the quality of service.

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I would like someone who can build a small amount of links at first to get some verification that they do quality work.


I'd say any link that can actually provide you definitive proof that you acheive better ranks are worth $500 each... so a small number for a small budget is 12 for $6000.

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Geez, that is a lot of money for 12 links, what type of links are we talking about? I was thinking of blog and forum links.

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yup!hire someone rather than a company. company may demand too much but in someone you can get it cheaper. . .

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yup!hire someone rather than a company. company may demand too much but in someone you can get it cheaper. . .


I agree, I just have been having a hard time finding someone to do this work.

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Fathom is a genius!

Wow, Fathom, that was smart!

What you just did here was a lot like going into a room with all of the lottery ticket holders & proclaiming you hold the winning ticket... Just so the person that does so will come forward to find you.

For the rest of you reading this, don't be discouraged. EVERYONE who tries hard enough and long enough, and has any creativity at all will be rewarded eventually by figuring out exactly how to automate effective linkbuilding... And for quite a bit less than Fathom just said. :p

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Wow, Fathom, that was smart!

What you just did here was a lot like going into a room with all of the lottery ticket holders & proclaiming you hold the winning ticket... Just so the person that does so will come forward to find you.

For the rest of you reading this, don't be discouraged. EVERYONE who tries hard enough and long enough, and has any creativity at all will be rewarded eventually by figuring out exactly how to automate effective linkbuilding... And for quite a bit less than Fathom just said. :p


How hard?

How long?

How much are these worth?

Let's say 40 hours/month is hard enough...

Let's say 6 months is long enough...

That's 240 hours and how much is 1 hour worth?

Let's say a hour is worth $10 - that's $2400 and you haven't factored in "link quality what-so-ever".

With link exchange only MaximumTadpole did it in 16 months... not sure how many hours per month that was but modestly 40 hours/month is 640 hours and if you assume labor for "someone" is $10/hour [your sweat equity if need be] is $6400.

When I wrote the post the $6000 was over a year... and your return was in days to a few weeks... thus assuming $5500 was all paid with "new money" that you business couldn't realize.

In the end, risk and rewards are the same... the more you can risk the more you get in return... and sometimes "hard enough" and "long enough" ... just isn't enough.

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How hard?... How long?....


It's different for everybody and their niche market. It's impossible to try to give estimates or foolproof rules, naturally. Also, the choice of business plan is a major factor too.

For the simplest plan I know, Adsense farming, it can take a long time, perhaps 2 PageRank updates, to see desirable results in any good link-building campaign. And yes, it's certianly not easy to do. -But then again, it can be done for free if you learn how to do it and do it all yourself.


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In the end, risk and rewards are the same... the more you can risk the more you get in return... and sometimes "hard enough" and "long enough" ... just isn't enough.


Although I know what you mean, since too many people get in over their heads, the word "enough" implies that the amount of work that it actually does take to accomplish the desired effect. I stand by my remark.

Let me just add this: The amount of learning and working you have to do to build enough links to make your business profitable is almost always more than you can conceive in the beginning... But still worth every minute of it, as long as you chose a profitable business model.

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