SEO Professionals
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsOtherSEO Professionals

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old March 16th, 2005, 03:11 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,874 randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 12 h 54 m 32 sec
Reputation Power: 11
Smile Seattle SEO/SEM Seminar

My good friend (well, we just met, but I like her a lot), Jill Whalen and her crew from the Highrankings forum are putting on a seminar in Seattle on March 31 & April 1 down the street from my offices. I won't be there the whole time, but I'll definitely drop by.

If you're in the Seattle area and want to participate, the URL for information is:
http://www.highrankings.com/spring05-seo-seminar.htm

Jill's fantastically skilled with the organic side of SEO, so not a lot of spam techniques or black hat sessions there, but some really solid information on how to rank higher, target keywords more effectively and optimize the website for conversions.

If you're in Seattle those days, PM or email me. I'll be out on several nights with the crew from the seminars and hope to see you there.

Incidentally, is there any plans for an SEOChat event now or in the future? I would definitely make myself available for that.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 16th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Gr8ted3s's Avatar
Gr8ted3s Gr8ted3s is offline
L8r
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: My New Found Land
Posts: 876 Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 22 h 19 m 39 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Thumbs down

The registration seems a little steep. The content from what I've read seems to be geared mainly toward newbies.

For example, the "Traffic Building Track":

The first two hours is spotting spam? What a COLLOSAL waste of time. Who cares about spotting spam and what does spotting spam have to do with me building my traffic?

Real World Pay Per Click? This MIGHT be worth seeing IF it wasn't just more opinions and theories like most of the others offered.

Understanding and Managing Your Linkbuilding Campaign? What is THAT supposed to mean? Sounds like marketing double talk to me.

The "Content Enhancement Track" doesn't seem much better.

It's really too bad, I may even be in Seattle during that timeframe and I'm still not willing to pay the registration fee. The question is: What exactly am I going to get out of this after spending over $1K and more importantly, two days of my time?

A couple three hundred dollars maybe, but still the only reason I would attend is for the networking opportunity. I surely wouldn't even pay that for just those tracks offered.

If I am displaying ignorance regarding this, please help me to see the value. However, I feel this event is too basic for the amount of money being requested for registration?

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 16th, 2005, 04:45 PM
luxurysleep's Avatar
luxurysleep luxurysleep is offline
EAT LEET!
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 446 luxurysleep User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)luxurysleep User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 3 h 16 m 2 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Send a message via AIM to luxurysleep
That pretty high for the content being offered. Rand - send me an email of where you will be meeting afterwards so we can have drinks. That will be the most fun anyways :-)

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 16th, 2005, 04:52 PM
ferret77 ferret77 is offline
Honesty is my only excuse
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 512 ferret77 User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)ferret77 User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 8 h 29 m 54 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Jill Whalan is ok, but the highrankings crew border on the equivolent of SEO hamstringing newbies.

When I first started learning seo I started by reading highrankings and ihelpyou, knowing what I know now, I feel like they mislead me, and ended up wasting a lot of my time.

Quote:
Jill's fantastically skilled with the organic side of SEO,


Well they preach content SEO which in my experience doesn't equal SEO sucess for competitive terms.

I wonder how much the clear of each of these seminars. $1000 a head they probably do pretty good.
Comments on this post
gchaney agrees: Amen Ferret - Everytime I've ventured over their the only information I ever got was not worth the
time to read it. Bunch of mis-information if you ask me!
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 16th, 2005, 05:30 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,874 randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 12 h 54 m 32 sec
Reputation Power: 11
I certainly understand your reticience to go if you're an experienced SEO with some success stories under your belt. This definitely is more of "training seminar" than an SEO conference - that's the impression I get from the seminar page.

I do take severe exception to your harsh language though, Gr8. These are talented people, I'll bet their courses do teach a lot of material, and they really do know their stuff - including link-building. There is more of a focus there on content-based SEO, but remember that these are people who work with big companies (Fortune 1000 and the like), so link-building is not as critical as information architecture and site management.

They do know link building too, though. I spent some time with one of their staff who does it and she is quite talented. There's no reason to be so negative Gr8 - usually you're just grumpy in a fun, benevolent way

LS - I'm not sure where we'll be going for drinks, but I'll email you before then so you have my cellphone. It would at least be fun to get together.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 16th, 2005, 06:31 PM
Gr8ted3s's Avatar
Gr8ted3s Gr8ted3s is offline
L8r
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: My New Found Land
Posts: 876 Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 22 h 19 m 39 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Ok, maybe I came off a little strong. I've been "grumpier" than usual this week, not sure why... By the way, I prefer the term direct 8)


I have nothing but respect for Jill and her accomplishments (same goes for you). I'm not necessarily saying that any one of the presenters isn't competent, I'm just implying that I think they are ripping people off at those fees for what they are offering. Perhaps they aren't doing as good a job as they could be describing what they are teaching.

Personally, someday I'd love to meet you and many others here at SEO Chat, I really got excited when I saw your post because the timing seemed very fortunate. I was very disappointed to see the same old rehashed content posted for this venue.

My first thought was hmmm, $1K for two days? Better be good. Then the next thing I see is how to identify spam. That IS a waste of time and I don't think I even have to go into why. As far as the remaining content; perhaps it IS geared toward the IT department of larger corporate structures. It must be at those rates for what appears to be being discussed.

Last edited by Gr8ted3s : March 16th, 2005 at 06:34 PM.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 16th, 2005, 07:31 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,874 randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 12 h 54 m 32 sec
Reputation Power: 11
"Direct" - I like that I think I'll use it next time I'm in a bad mood.

Perhaps an SEOChat seminar is something that can be arranged in the next 6-12 months. I believe I will start a thread on it when I have some time and resources to devote. In the meantime, if you are just starting out in SEO or even if you're an advanced SEO who needs some time away from the office, I highly recommend Seattle.

We've got a lovely town, great bars & restaurants, and I guarantee that whatever Jill's teaching, there's something you haven't learned in the past. I went to SES NYC with a very open attitude and came away amazed at what I learned. These events rely on the "2 heads are better than 1" philosophy and with the small session size and in-depth coverage, I would guess that an event like the HighRankings one is probably an even better place to discuss very granular or specific issues.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 16th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Gr8ted3s's Avatar
Gr8ted3s Gr8ted3s is offline
L8r
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: My New Found Land
Posts: 876 Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 22 h 19 m 39 sec
Reputation Power: 5
I agree, Seattle is a beautiful city, and one of my favorite places to visit. I'm just saying that WMW is half the cost, for three days and a lot of good information. SEW has events that are quite worthwhile, and yet you don't see them charging $1000+ a head. For $1000 I'd better be getting some real world information with at least some quality preliminary data behind it.

I do like the idea of a smaller gathering though. Ah well, maybe next time.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 17th, 2005, 01:59 AM
Wit's Avatar
Wit Wit is offline
http://tinyurl.com/cz56g
SEO Chat God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: D0RDRECHT NL
Posts: 6,065 Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Months 6 Days 10 h 52 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 18
Gr8ted3s - just aim for the afterparty then. I'm sure that Seattle nights are good as well. Especially after the 'newbies' have gone to bed (?)

I bet rand will paint the town yellow with his shoes LOL.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 17th, 2005, 09:22 AM
kennyg kennyg is offline
SEO VietNam
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 149 kennyg User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 23 h 13 m 47 sec
Reputation Power: 0
I can't go there but i want to watch video of that seminar ^.^. anybody can help me?

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 17th, 2005, 12:56 PM
Gr8ted3s's Avatar
Gr8ted3s Gr8ted3s is offline
L8r
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: My New Found Land
Posts: 876 Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level)Gr8ted3s User rank is Lance Corporal (50 - 100 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 22 h 19 m 39 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Hey Wit, how often do you make it to the states?

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsOtherSEO Professionals > Seattle SEO/SEM Seminar


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump



 Free IT White Papers!
 
How to Present Effectively Online
This white paper offers practical and actionable advice on the key steps that any presenter should consider as they plan and execute a Webinar or online meeting.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Open Source Security Myths
Open Source Software (OSS) is computer software whose source code is available to the general public with relaxed or non-existent intellectual property restrictions (or arrangement such as the public domain), and is usually developed with the input of many contributors.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Power and Cooling Capacity Management for Data Centers
This paper describes the principles for achieving power and cooling capacity management.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Scalable, Fault-Tolerant NAS for Oracle - The Next Generation
For several years NAS has been evolving as a storage alternative for Oracle databases, and for good reason: NAS is quite often the simplest, most cost-effective storage approach for Oracle. Learn about the benefits that HP's approach to scalable NAS brings to Oracle environments in this comprehensive white paper.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Understanding Web Application Security Challenges
This white paper discusses many common threats and preventive measures for Web application security, and explains what you can do to help protect your organization.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support |