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Old October 18th, 2004, 11:58 PM
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for a respected professional SEO company.
I already know of seo-guy

Who else is respected in the business?

Please include thier website

Thanks

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Old October 19th, 2004, 01:15 AM
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Much of this board are SEOs. Well respected to themselves and others but this still offers no guarantee that you will receive satisfactory results.

If industry wide respect is what you are looking this starts at about 15K US per year (and that's unbelievably cheap)... if this is out of your budget range then you are better off contacting existing clients to fine the right sort (and past clients) and weight all the pluses & minueses - and then chose.
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Many of the best SEOs are sadly tied up in projects and don't offer their services to new clients. I would, however recommend putting your site, keyword phrase(s) and budget up so interested SEOs can e-mail you. You can get an instant sense of who's right for your project and can come read their posts here at the board to help you make up your mind.

Just remember, you will not only need a good budget to pay your SEO, you'll also need a considerable amount reserved for link and ad buying online - the SEO will know exactly how much, but for competitive keywords, you'll hamstring yourself if you reserve less than $5K per month for link buying (not including PPC).

You should also keep in mind that while results at Yahoo! and MSN may appear in the first 2-3 months, you would be lucky indeed to be in the top 20 at Google after 6 months - that's just the way things are working right now...

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Many of the best SEOs are sadly tied up in projects and don't offer their services to new clients. I would, however recommend putting your site, keyword phrase(s) and budget up so interested SEOs can e-mail you. You can get an instant sense of who's right for your project and can come read their posts here at the board to help you make up your mind.

Just remember, you will not only need a good budget to pay your SEO, you'll also need a considerable amount reserved for link and ad buying online - the SEO will know exactly how much, but for competitive keywords, you'll hamstring yourself if you reserve less than $5K per month for link buying (not including PPC).

You should also keep in mind that while results at Yahoo! and MSN may appear in the first 2-3 months, you would be lucky indeed to be in the top 20 at Google after 6 months - that's just the way things are working right now...


Some EXCELLENT points Randfish!

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Many of the best SEOs are sadly tied up in projects and don't offer their services to new clients. I would, however recommend putting your site, keyword phrase(s) and budget up so interested SEOs can e-mail you. You can get an instant sense of who's right for your project and can come read their posts here at the board to help you make up your mind.

Just remember, you will not only need a good budget to pay your SEO, you'll also need a considerable amount reserved for link and ad buying online - the SEO will know exactly how much, but for competitive keywords, you'll hamstring yourself if you reserve less than $5K per month for link buying (not including PPC).

You should also keep in mind that while results at Yahoo! and MSN may appear in the first 2-3 months, you would be lucky indeed to be in the top 20 at Google after 6 months - that's just the way things are working right now...


Wonderfull, Excellent post,

http://www.seoguy.com is good, but they charge more.

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Hi everyone,

I am looking for a respected professional SEO company.
I already know of seo-guy

Who else is respected in the business?

Please include thier website

Thanks
all the Senior Members and Modrators are respected professional SEO . I am One of the Poster here.

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Old October 19th, 2004, 10:22 AM
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I would, however recommend putting your site, keyword phrase(s) and budget up so interested SEOs can e-mail you.
Where do I put it up?

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Just post the details here.

I may be interested my self, although I am extremely busy at the moment.

Things like your market, suggested keywords, expected results, budget and resource availability are all useful points.

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Old October 19th, 2004, 04:28 PM
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My website is http://www.discreteautos.net
We will be adding more content pretty soon for some crawler food.

Market is obviously automotive.
More particularly we are developing a niche in performance cars and parts.
Anything enthusiast related, but we do not want to limit ourselves to enthusiasts.

Keywords:
BMW for sale
STi for sale
Turbo
Turbocharger
Subaru for sale
Turbo kit
Mustang for sale
Corvette for sale
Camaro for sale
....etc - you see the trend

Expected results:
Need to be on the first page, preferably within the first 5 rankings

Resources ~ You have me. I have enough time to get things done and could help out in many ways. You just need to order me around and tell me what to do

Budget - Tell me what it will cost.
I obviously do not have millions for an advertising campaign, however I know what is realistic and can pay for that.

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Old October 19th, 2004, 07:04 PM
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myshtern - Although I can't personally help you, I think it's very honorable of you to come here, ask for help & spill the details. Many people are very close with this information and if more people were open like you, our industry would be a better place.

On to the topics at hand:
Sadly, you are targeting exceptionally competitive terms. I would estimate that unless you're willing to broaden your terms, which a good SEO might help you do, you will be looking at a phenomenal budget.

Were I you, I would start by targeting less daunting keywords and work my way up. I'd probably go after things like:
bmw motorcycle parts - 228 searches per day
bmw wheels - 208 searches per day
corvette accessories - 192 searches per day

rather than

bmw, corvette, etc. which get more searches, but will be near impossible to get to the top on (at least in the next 6-9 months).

On the plus side, you have a good site and are willing to help, tweak and build which is very positive. This could be the best thing you have going for you as flexibility and knowledge are an SEOs greatest tools. Here is what I would expect to pay and the returns you would likely see (just for organic SERPs):

1st 3 months
Spend between $2000-$5000 on the SEO company or individual per month. You will need their undivided attention and probably want someone who only has a single other major project or can devote all their time to you. I would estimate 25-35 hours per week are critical. You'll also need about $10,000 total for link building over the 3 months. At the end of this time period, you'll start to see results - probably top 20 for 5-10 terms with Yahoo & MSN and if you're lucky 1 or 2 terms that rank top 20 at Google as well. I would estimate traffic levels around 750-2000 visitors per day depending on which keywords you're succesful with (this would be at the end of the 3 months).

2nd 3 months
Spend a little less on the SEO as you only need 10-15 hours a week. Maybe $1200-$2500 per month. Anticipate another $4000-$6000 for link building over the course of these 3 months. You should see traffic slowly rising to around 1500-3500 visitors (again dependent on terms, etc.). Look for top 10 rankings for 5-10 keywords at Yahoo & MSN. You should find 1 or 2 keywords in top ten at Google by the end of 6 months as well, although they may be lowlier keywords than you might hope for.

During the initial 6 months, you can use PPC (which would be managed well by a good SEO) from Overture & AdWords to bolster your traffic by whatever you can afford and find gets you a good ROI. The SEO should have the expertise to help walk you through this as well.

Hopefully that will help you get started and give you an independent idea of what to expect. The top price ranges are for people who have experience and expertise, whereas the lower figures would give you someone who might have the knowledge but not the direct experience. Sometimes, it's nice to pay less and get someone who's hungry, or you might be someone who demands results and can't afford to be let down - in which case paying 1.5 or 2x as much is worthwhile.

Best of luck! Some poor SEO is about to have his/her hands full

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My website is http://www.discreteautos.net

Keywords:
BMW for sale
STi for sale
Turbo
Turbocharger
Subaru for sale
Turbo kit
Mustang for sale
Corvette for sale
Camaro for sale


Unforuately even #1 results will be met with "tons" of traffic but few conversions.... unless of course you ship vehicles to the customer and at a choice of expense... plus have an iron clad return policy.

Short of this - you market is a regional one where:

Camaro for sale Tampa
Camaro for sale Tampa Florida
Tampa Camaro for sale
Tampa Florida Camaro for sale

etc. if that is the region the car is in.

Camaro "anywhere" isn't your your target - not because you don't have cars everywhere... but because serious buyers just don't look for "camaro" and "sale" they need a local/regional deal so they can check it out before paying cash and this mean within a reasonable traveling distance.

Also such targeting - fruition earlier, easy to rank and while traffic is significantly less you can pretty much guarantee "sales more".

also SHOULD cost you 'less".

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Perhaps you should take another look at my website
I dont sell cars from Colorado

Its nationwide classifieds meaning there are cars for sale from Washington to Florida
My conversions come from people selling there cars not buying.
I want people to sell their Camaro from everywhere, not just Tampa.

As I said before, I target enthusiasts and enthusiast cars which people buy from other states and whatnot.

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I'd recommend you post contact info such as an email so people may contact you besides using the PM system

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contact me if you are an experienced SEO