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Old July 8th, 2006, 03:34 PM
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I am in need of an SEO specialist to re-work a couple of my site. I require a linking system of relative links and about 50 pictures changed within the site.

I am presently PR3 on Google (both) and I believe I would like to get around a PR5 or 6 if possible.

One site deals with Native Indian Dream catchers and such and the other sells download-able Last wills and testaments.

Neither of these sites has generated enough dollar revenue to pay for there existence; this is a last chance resort to make them profitable to me at a responsible price. I'm sure this would be at least a one year commitment on both parts to see this happen. sunrooms@gmail.com



Yes ! I am interested in your offer.Please PM me at delhi.seo@gmail.com and let me what are services you are looking for in detail.
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Yes ! I am interested in your offer.Please PM me at delhi.seo@gmail.com and let me what are services you are looking for in detail.


If you are interest please send him a email or pm him...

Tip: It seem very unprofessional you post this type of message becuase the potential client is asking for a service and repond him that you are interest and that HE need to contact you, in the real world if he post a job you need to get in contact with him, not him with you...
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If you are interest please send him a email or pm him...

Tip: It seem very unprofessional you post this type of message becuase the potential client is asking for a service and repond him that you are interest and that HE need to contact you, in the real world if he post a job you need to get in contact with him, not him with you...


Hi incdeveloper,

Thanks for your guidance.Now i will not repeat the same mistake.

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If you are interest please send him a email or pm him...

Tip: It seem very unprofessional you post this type of message becuase the potential client is asking for a service and repond him that you are interest and that HE need to contact you, in the real world if he post a job you need to get in contact with him, not him with you...


I see it from another way... not taking job but giving service... If someone needs service, then he can contact the service providers...Why not?

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I see it from another way... not taking job but giving service... If someone needs service, then he can contact the service providers...Why not?


Yes but that is if the client need to find by himself someone that give him a service, but in this case he is asking for the service and giving him a contact me if you want my services sound a little rude and indirect.

A guy told me that i got a potential client that want to contact, it will be very rude from myself to say that the potential client need to contact me instead of my trying to contact her. I just what i think and deal with my custumers.

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Just cultural differences of two world - East Vs West. Incdeveloper and Delhi.SEO - you both are right and you both are wrong.
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Just cultural differences of two world - East Vs West. Incdeveloper and Delhi.SEO - you both are right and you both are wrong.


Haha, i will not say we are wrong i will say that we see and act with potential costumers different.

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I am in need of an SEO specialist to re-work a couple of my site. I require a linking system of relative links and about 50 pictures changed within the site.

I am presently PR3 on Google (both) and I believe I would like to get around a PR5 or 6 if possible.

One site deals with Native Indian Dream catchers and such and the other sells download-able Last wills and testaments.

Neither of these sites has generated enough dollar revenue to pay for there existence; this is a last chance resort to make them profitable to me at a responsible price. I'm sure this would be at least a one year commitment on both parts to see this happen. sunrooms@gmail.com
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Just cultural differences of two world - East Vs West. Incdeveloper and Delhi.SEO - you both are right and you both are wrong.


I would like to understand the Eastern culture better so that perhaps I will look upon these posts in a different light.

Many of the Western culture people who post here feel that it is improper for forum members with a very small number of posts and very low reputation to aggressively solicit clients here. They feel that the service offered will be of low quality and be a waste of money. They also believe that the client should be solicited in private or that the client should find a service provider based upon an observation of freely given advice.

I don't do SEO for hire so I am not in competition for clients with anyone here.

In the Eastern culture how do clients and service providers normally meet one another? Is it based upon advertising, quality reputation, directve solicitation, or another method?
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I would like to understand the Eastern culture better so that perhaps I will look upon these posts in a different light.

Many of the Western culture people who post here feel that it is improper for forum members with a very small number of posts and very low reputation to aggressively solicit clients here. They feel that the service offered will be of low quality and be a waste of money. They also believe that the client should be solicited in private or that the client should find a service provider based upon an observation of freely given advice.

I don't do SEO for hire so I am not in competition for clients with anyone here.

In the Eastern culture how do clients and service providers normally meet one another? Is it based upon advertising, quality reputation, directve solicitation, or another method?


Interesting set of questions. Professionally I don't believe it is east vs. west as the the backlog of 'hire me' the bulk come from US.

While in appearance in could seem like recent (the past year) the newest members are from eastern cultures - that can be easily be associated with critical mass phenomena...

Historically Canada's adoption has alway been a perfect curve 18 months behind US, Euro 18 months being Canada, Asia 18 months again.

That's 6 years of growth. Interesting enough search engines regional expansion parallels this.

It's just "their time"... I suspect if Google existed in Asia in 2000 and SEOChat was here and ranked - they would have gotten over "I Want A Client, I Want A Client, I Want A Client..." long ago.

OK - but it is REALLY GOOD BULL****!
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In the Eastern culture how do clients and service providers normally meet one another? Is it based upon advertising, quality reputation, directve solicitation, or another method?


I personally get my jobs from happy custumers that talks to other people, is more like a worth-of-mouth thing.

I started as a flash web designer and now i work in seo field too, i started to get some reputation breaking miths and that type of stuff, my reputation and portfolio is what gets people hired no matter if you are in costa rica, uk or usa.

"flash websites cant be rank on competive keywords" thats what my competition always says, and i show my clients the websites that i currently have ranked on top SEs.

Personally if a client is interest on my services i dont let them call me i grab the phone and ask them "when can we have a metting to discuss your needs?", i will not tell them to contact me in a direct way becuase for me thats rude.

I can say i make fun of all the people that dont read and update about SEs activities. There alot of companies here that tell the client the important things that google sees, and most of the time they dont know what they are saying.... take a look:

http://www.arweb.com/mercadeo-in.htm
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networking, wow, a concept.

seriously, seochat must rank great in india cause all the pros are coming from there What we need to do is a) ban people faster, b) set up a 'i've been burned by blank blank' forum

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EGOL - it will be very difficult to understand Eastern culture because it is not just India, it is Phillipines, Pakistan, China, etc...

Soliciting clients aggressively - you will be surprised to see the number of new clients some of my Indian counterparts receive every month. Sitting in India - making cold calls. Yea - they can afford - why - some genious got 2 SunRocket lines in US, shipped one unit to India and the office there hooked it on Cable modem - wallah - free calls to US. Plus the mass - number of English speaking kids available - you can get a good english speaking kid to cold call for $50/month + commission - maybe less. And their numbers are way higher then mine, because even American companies do not want to spend high $ - don't quote me on this because it is my experience which may not speak for everybody.

And a relevant example, its these same type of species on the forums and their job is to flood the forums either asking questions or directly soliciting the clients.

There are lot of other differences from my observation and I can probably write a book on it but it would be worthless for me to go into them now.

There is a book on negotiations - I will look up my book case this eve and post the name here - last chapter is about negotiations with different countries and cultural differences.

I tend to ignore most of the posts from India because they are very much non-sensical. I have come to find people translate from their mother tongues and narrate and that is so not American conversational language. I sometimes even find dialogues from Hollywood movies used in conversations - that is their only exposure to American language unless if they are in call center for Dell, MSN, etc...

I totally disagree with your statements about how one should solicit a client. I have seen private solicitations as well open solicitations. It all depends on the nature of solicitor.

When it comes to services it is mostly word-of-mouth for small businesses. People returning each others favors and creating a good network.

Big companies - they are into advertising and they conduct business the way their American counterparts do - and hence lot of offshore outsourcing.

I suggest you to read 'World is Flat' - it will clear up lot of your concerns, questions.
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Yeah it did Couldn't have outsourced work otherwise!

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