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Old August 18th, 2004, 02:04 PM
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MSN New Search - a Boom or a Myth

Hello Microsoft Search Management Team (MSMT),

My Name is Ryan Govindan, a SEO Professional from INDIA. I am interested in knowing and to work with MSN search. But would like to know how different is it from rest of the search engine. I dont need a comparison chart but features that will help to grow my business and each and every SEO Professional business to the extreme heights.

Microsoft may be promoting its "MSN Search" on the internet in different ways, but there has to be certain bench mark for the different searches. No sites or not much forum tells how this new "MSN Search Works". Its very difficult to gain popularity for "MSN Search" so easily.

Microsoft may have left behind the leading players in Product Development Companies in terms of Applications, Database Software etc. but Search Engine is a different ball game, because i see a different channel of companies who will look in for performance of the search engines depending on the backend technologies.

Below is a Netcraft - Web server survey:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/w...ver_survey.html

It clearly says the apache web server is widely used and access because of its stability and performance. Also most of the search engines are hosted on the open source technologies.

Well my discussion is not the comparison of the Microsoft Technologies and the Open Source technologies but my question is the "How stable? How Consistence? How much competetive is MSN Search?

I regret if i have written anything wrong.

Looking forward to hear from you at the earliest.

Thanking you,
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Old August 18th, 2004, 02:26 PM
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Hello Microsoft Search Management Team (MSMT),

My Name is Ryan Govindan, a SEO Professional from INDIA. I am interested in knowing and to work with MSN search. But would like to know how different is it from rest of the search engine. I dont need a comparison chart but features that will help to grow my business and each and every SEO Professional business to the extreme heights.

Microsoft may be promoting its "MSN Search" on the internet in different ways, but there has to be certain bench mark for the different searches. No sites or not much forum tells how this new "MSN Search Works". Its very difficult to gain popularity for "MSN Search" so easily.

Microsoft may have left behind the leading players in Product Development Companies in terms of Applications, Database Software etc. but Search Engine is a different ball game, because i see a different channel of companies who will look in for performance of the search engines depending on the backend technologies.

Below is a Netcraft - Web server survey:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/w...ver_survey.html

It clearly says the apache web server is widely used and access because of its stability and performance. Also most of the search engines are hosted on the open source technologies.

Well my discussion is not the comparison of the Microsoft Technologies and the Open Source technologies but my question is the "How stable? How Consistence? How much competetive is MSN Search?

I regret if i have written anything wrong.

Looking forward to hear from you at the earliest.

Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,

Ryan Govindan
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Cell No.: 91.9821736550

Welcome to the forum!

Windows servers are normally quicker then apache (even thoguh you can get it on windows), but linux have an advantage over windows.

Windows needs to be restarted (which leads to downtime) when updates applied, linux is on the fly, i.e. can update withotu needing to be restarted.

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Ryan Govindan

Hello Dan,

Thanks for that information. but the thing what i would like to discuss in detail is "Will MSN New Search Technology will build its own space on the internet". SEO business is different here. Google is banking on the open source technology which is stable as on date except the problem happened couple of weeks back. Well this discussion apart. I has this information that Microsoft is building a Link Analyser in the Oxford is that true. If its true and if the complete MSN search engine under development then what is the reason for Microsoft to announce its pre-launch about the "MSN New Search Technology"

Dear Moderator, What I was talking is serious for me but may be not serious for you at this point. I request you please not to give a reaction like that "HUH!>>>" thank you.

Well Folks, MSN promises a lot about it NEW search Technology. Will people bank on it. If yes then tell me what areas you would like MSN to support SEO Business / Industry

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The HUH was NOT directed at you Ryan, but at Egol's response, as I didn't understand it. Although to be honest, I don't understand what this entire thread is about.

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Old August 19th, 2004, 12:35 PM
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Ryan Govindan

Yeah dazzlindonna, I think i have mis understood it. I regret.

Is that the moderator can do anything on our threads thats not fair. Anyways lets not discuss that.

My thread is for the SEO professionals who just entered the SEO business may be infant in the industry, but see a great career in SEO. I am targetting to those professionals and their knowledge to take the SEO to bank on their career.

Also I would like expert ideas on the same because "MSN New Search Technology" or any Search Engines for that matter does not help the junior SEO professionals to make a mark in this industry.

Infact dazzlindonna... I am trying to streamline my thread by getting some feedback from the user and also the expertise what they feel about "MSN New Search Technology"...... Basically I am targetting Organic / Natural Optimization for "MSN New Search Technology"

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The HUH was NOT directed at you Ryan, but at Egol's response, as I didn't understand it. Although to be honest, I don't understand what this entire thread is about.

Hmm.. i think Egol just posted to the wrong thread! I think this reply was targetted at Big L, who was asking for a review for his copy in the site Reviews section.

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Old August 19th, 2004, 04:22 PM
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Hello Dan,

Thanks for that information. but the thing what i would like to discuss in detail is "Will MSN New Search Technology will build its own space on the internet". SEO business is different here. Google is banking on the open source technology which is stable as on date except the problem happened couple of weeks back. Well this discussion apart. I has this information that Microsoft is building a Link Analyser in the Oxford is that true. If its true and if the complete MSN search engine under development then what is the reason for Microsoft to announce its pre-launch about the "MSN New Search Technology"

Dear Moderator, What I was talking is serious for me but may be not serious for you at this point. I request you please not to give a reaction like that "HUH!>>>" thank you.

Well Folks, MSN promises a lot about it NEW search Technology. Will people bank on it. If yes then tell me what areas you would like MSN to support SEO Business / Industry

Ryan Govindan
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Well the reason why i think MSN will do well is...

1. has 3 of 5 most visited sites on the internet
2. Microsoft has 95% of the world computers with Windows Installed on them, if they intergrated it with Windows they would get loads of people to use it.
3. got loads of money!!
4. The techpreview site gave me great SERPs in MSN Search, so more webmasters will want to be on it and should mean more relevant searches what people want.

The reason why currently (previously) MSN Search never did well:

1. Not FREE to submit a site
2. FREE to small sites but not accessible to submit from search.msn.com but a huge URL on bcentral i think it is.
3. Its sh*t uses Yahoo

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MSN preview search seems to bring up more relevant results than yahoo.
It's still in beta... they'll keep on improving it.
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"MSN New Search Technology"

Da,

Very Well said DAN. I feel these are factors and facts by which "MSN New Search Technology" will boom. Point number 3 is the most important factor. Well MSN use any other SE's technology for reference? May I am asking lots of question but the thing is MSN promises to be number one SE in the years to come. Well no doubt Microsoft will be leading the future.. but will it lead the SEO business?

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