Looking for a partner to market my site.

I'm looking for a SEO partner to market and promote my directory site.

My site is a directory of 100,000+ companies (about 100,000 indexed pages), about 10 mths old, which i spent $1500 developing - script, database, and some manual data entry. I spent a substantial amount of time on my site but traffic plunged after growing gradually for 6 months. Before traffic plunged, my directory was getting about 2000 views a day While traffic was climbing, for 3 mths, i was getting 2000 views a day and earning an average adsense of $5 a day. Now, it's down to 600 views and 50 cents a day. My site is still indexed, has a PR. But at this rate, my project is a total loss. I now admit that my SEO skills is not up to par, but at the same time, i'm not willing to give up this project.

As such, I'm looking for a partner good at whitehat SEO, who is willing to promote my site using whitehat methods.

In return, i'm willing give him or her all of my adsense income above $150 a month (works out to $5 a day - the same as what i got just a few months ago) for the next 24 months.

This will be calculated on a monthly basis. Which means assuming that traffic starts to rise above $150 after the 3rd month we start our partnership, you will get all surplus adsense earnings above $150 for a particular month.

Eg. If adsense for July 2008 for my site is $500, you will get $350.

You'll also be allowed to place your own analytics code on my site. For adsense, i will provide screen captures of monthly (by day) earnings reports to you.

I'm new on this forum, but my moniker is active on domain forums like domainstate.com, dnforum.com, idnforums.com, as a domain seller and buyer, so i'll be staking my reputation on those forums for this deal.

The only condition for the continuation of this partnership is that the site must earn at least $90 a month ($3 a day) from the 7th month onwards. If earnings drop below $90 a month continuously for 3 mths on and after the 7th mth, i will reserve the right to cancel the partnership.

Also, as i invested substantial time and some money on this forum, i'm not willing to risk my site, so i can only work with whitehat SEO guys with proven track record either on DP, SP or webmasterworld. If you're interested and want more details, please drop me a PM. I can provide screenshots of google earnings, analytics data, and any data which i get for my website.

Thank you for your time.

Not much of a partnership... surely if you ain't willing to risk a loan or credit on your own project - why would anyone else do that?

Will assume the person works for free until you get to where you were and then get's to make a $1 to whatever for the rest of the 24 months...

In this type of model I would say 100% Adsense fees for 24 months is more appropriate - that's really only a current lost to you of $360.00 ($0.50/day for 24 months) and I would say the SEO AdSense are on the domain for 2 years - not yours.

What stops you from saying "screw you - I want it all [when it comes time to pay up] -- you were the stupid SEO to risk everything on only my good word!"

In any "partnership" equal risk is a must... what's your risk?

I would say if you control the money(the AdSense account)... the SEO should control the domain ownership... transfer the domain to the SEO registrar account makes risk even... that way when you don't pay he can keep the domain... that's shared risk.

...while you could say... "what if the guy steals my domain"... that's a real possibility - but you don't get into bed with people that you don't know just because you don't wish to risk anything upfront.

That's why you pay for SEO... get a loan, charge up your credit card... surely it will be a worthy investment - if you believe there is tons of AdSense $$$!

You have a huge site that has so many pages that major link juice is needed to hold them in the index. You probably have so few links that google forgets about your content between spiderings. You need somebody who can focus major firepower onto the site.

If this site has a treasure trove of content that people would WANT to link to then you are better off hiring someone to do the work of promotion. Because... you have a tremendous asset. That way you get the links and they will likely stay in place.

Now, if you have some low quality content (probably is based upon your investment - we invest more in single articles).... that is going to be a miserable job to recruit links. However, if I have a bunch of spammy sites that I can use to flood it with links then I can collect the adsense money produced from the site. When the two years are up (maybe a few months in advance) I yank down those links and use them to drive another project.

If these 100,000 pages are

yada yada yada Pittsburgh
yada yada yada Detroit
yada yada yada Phoenix

then the project is not worth anybody's time because you really have no content, you have 100,000 pages of rubberstamp junk.

I can grab a number of different databases and use them to make a 100,000 page site and probably have the same success as you, probably better if I can design better navigation for SEO and improve the onpage SEO. In general those are boring sites. Professional spam. My time is better spent on five or six articles.

EDIT: Please feel free to start a new thread with specific question about your site or product.

Thanks

I wouldn't expect my partner to spend money.



This is possible, but i don't mind giving 100%, but what if the partner can't add value to the site, or just do the very minimum to collect adsense money, then we'll all be wasting time.



I run a business on other forums using the same moniker, and its in the tens of thousands a year, and reputation is everything on forums.



I'm open to other terms as long as both parties are protected. Transferring the domain to a neutral and very reputable party is one option.



I'll gladly do that for my software business website. This is a side project, i'm focusing on my main biz.

Thanks. I wouldn't expect a partner to spend considerable time on SEO, if it takes time, as you said, it will be better off creating your own directory site, which i spent considerable time doing so last year.

I'm ok if the SEO measures are temporarily, lasting only for as long as the partner is on.

Also, if you're a proven expert in SEO, you don't have to let me know what you're doing as long as it is all whitehat.

But there are costs associated with SEO... such as one way links and depending on the quality needed... costs alot.



...that and a $1 will buy a cup of coffee that costs a buck.



Then that's what you should do so you can invest in your side project.

Honestly, while you might get offers from newbies that won't likely produce anything, you can't do it for free and you'll never see a professiional chasing after you for AdSense bucks simply because building ranks for mere clicks-out isn't worth anything.

Newbie advertisers might pay a $1 a click on content ads for a short time but as their costs go up and the sales stay low they quickly learn that content ads are a steal for $0.01 and that means the SEO doesn't make much.

But you never know.

Good liuck.

Thank you.

I've come to a stage whereby either i leave it there to lie dormant**, or just pass it for 2 years to someone who can make ad money out of the traffic. I would not mind even if the SEO only works during that 2 years - from links on loan, etc.

**though i'm still actively maintaining new signups and replying to emails while hoping traffic will rise magically, of cos, this is non-paying work.

You might wish to start different thread... under a topic of Lost Traffic - Am I Penalized?

"USUALLY" traffic doesn't decline abruptly without a reason... you might find someone 'for free' determine the problem... and thereby you're back to $5/day (or more).

As an example... new domains rarely rank well in Google, so you rely heavily on Yahoo & MSN... but if something submitted a DMCA takedown order on the domain because of 'alleged copyright infrienging content'... that would be the reason... neither Yahoo or MSN notify you of the complaint... they simply remove your domain...

That 'understanding' allows a competitor to wrongly complain and GONE no more traffic. They don't do it with Google because Google notifies the alleged offending domain's owner before taking action.

Rightly or wrongly this can be rectified in a whenther of days... and your traffic majically reappears.

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ONLY - don't assume this is actually your problem.

Sure, thanks for your suggestion. The name is new. I've been through this sudden rise and drop in positioning at least three times the last 8 mths or so, i think it's a lack of backlinks or SEO problem.