Looing for true SEO Partners

[hamben54]

I am looking for a true partner to help with marketing insurance online. I have been selling insurance the old fashion way for over 20 years. As I look at the future of my business. It is obvious that more and more clients will be purchasing there insurance products online. I have spent the last 6 months reading about SEO and learning everything I can and I have had some success with a website that I have had for about 7 years with finally getting some movement for a few keywords so I have a very basic understanding of how it all works. With that said it has also brought me to the realization that advertising the old fashion way is dead. However I have always had a huge problem with advertisers who always promise you will make huge ROI’s.
EXAMPLE: A few years back my yellow page rep stopped by to give me the annual nasty graham (rate increase) my bill was ballooning to over $2,000 per month for a quarter pages. She couldn’t understand my reaction to the news and suggested we should just spend more. I guess she didn’t understand spending more than we get back isn’t a sustainable business model.
In my opinion SEO is nothing more than advertising. Whether it is Yellow pages, television or radio spots it all comes down to ROI and gaining new clients.
Every SEO company I have talked to in the last 6 months has promised the same thing. They will drive tons of traffic to my site and sales will go through the roof of course there is no risk on their part.
The pay for performance SEO companies are somewhat intriguing however no true sales will happen until the key words are ranked in the top 5, so again no ROI for quite some time if any.
Let me sum this up by saying if you are a top level Internet marketer then put your money were your mouth is and I will do the same. Yes a very bold statement but I am willing to offer Actual Ownership in my agency for profit driven results. That’s right actual stock in the company.
SO If you are capable of driving tons of traffic to our website that turns into actual sales and profit then I would be more than willing to give that firm or individual a stake in my company. After all it makes good business sense to have a smaller peace of a growing pie.

Let me further explain how I would see this partnership working out financially.
Internet Marketer would be given stock for hitting certain production levels but would participate day one in the gross (yes Gross Profit) profit of the sales generated.
Gross profit would come from two separate sources.
Profit center 1 would be 20% of gross profit of directly generated sales.
Example:
There are approximately 50,000 Google enquires a day for the keyword life insurance
Our goal would be to capture 5% of the searches and sale 1% of the captures.
Meeting this goal for just one product line would generate a monthly income to the marketer of approximately. $24,000
Profit center 2 would be 10% of retained Margine of any product sold by any agent referred to the firm.
Retained Margine is the % kept by the brokerage firm above the agent levels. This will vary by product but for most life products figure about 20%.
Example: Assume a 20% retained merging by the brokerage firm Marketer would receive 10% of that which would be about 2%
Goal would be to have 1000 agents referred to the Brokerage firm.
Assume the 1000 agents each sale 1 policy per month would generate a monthly income to the marketer of approximately $16,000
Hitting these goals would produce a combined monthly income to the marketer of approximately $40,000

Sorry i cant post a thread yet.

Google Benham and Associates
Who’s willing to step up?
I look forward to talking with candidates.

Lee

[KernelPanic]

Sorry Lee, here's the truth: You have a horrid PR1 site with between 100 and 200 IBLs. You are starting with nothing and you're site is a conversion nightmare. The site has to be redone or all the traffic in the world will do you little good competing against Allstate, Statefarm.... So my initial outlay is 8-20k for a new site and 1 year of labor before we see any sales. That comes to about 120k.

Pass

[hamben54]

Thanks for the honest reply.
I am assuming that would be the same amount of work for any SEO expert.
So everyone calling me and emailing me on a daily bases about how they could get my site to page one would not fair any better? This means paying for SEO for over a year before any ROI could be realized.
Sounds like I would be better off getting a college intern to work on it.

Funny side note I put this same legitimate offer out on worrier forum and they banned me for spamming.

[CaptainHappyMeal]

Convince EGOL to work on your site and your problem will be sorted out!

[SEO_AM]

Convince EGOL to work on your site and your problem will be sorted out!

You be dreaming?

[SEO_AM]

Funny side note I put this same legitimate offer out on worrier forum and they banned me for spamming.

Truth be known most any business idea can make money if you have enough time and money to out-compete, out-advertise, out-perform, or maybe even out-live your competitors. The reason why they banned you for spam is because your offer is spam. No decent SEO would look at your project.

Get a good web designer, student intern and maybe yourself to work the site. Become an expert in SEO. During that process you just might identify a niche where some money can be made.

[Test-ok]

Thanks for the honest reply.
I am assuming that would be the same amount of work for any SEO expert.
So everyone calling me and emailing me on a daily bases about how they could get my site to page one would not fair any better? This means paying for SEO for over a year before any ROI could be realized.
Sounds like I would be better off getting a college intern to work on it.

Funny side note I put this same legitimate offer out on worrier forum and they banned me for spamming.

You'll find a lot of SEO people who will claim to do what you want...there's just not many who really know what their doing.

You can get your site optimized for the term you want but like KP said thats all your might get is a small of traffic if any (very competitive key word)...you eventually want to end up with traffic that converts into sales...and thats going to take some time to get the results your after.
Have you targeted the local Omaha market or are you only interested in nationwide?

[hamben54]

You'll find a lot of SEO people who will claim to do what you want...there's just not many who really know what their doing.

You can get your site optimized for the term you want but like KP said thats all your might get is a small of traffic if any (very competitive key word)...you eventually want to end up with traffic that converts into sales...and thats going to take some time to get the results your after.
Have you targeted the local Omaha market or are you only interested in nationwide?

Well you guys Understand Seo and internet marketing. Obviously I know enough to be dangerous.
However I do understand the insurance side very well. I really don’t need anything done on a local bases we have more than enough to keep us busy. However there are enormous opportunities that are going to be opening up on national bases because of how insurance companies are transitioning to alternate distribution models. I’m not willing to discuss in an open forum what is going to be happening in the next few years but agents need to be very worried...

[SEO_AM]

I’m not willing to discuss in an open forum what is going to be happening in the next few years but agents need to be very worried...

All the more reason for you to develop your resources, talent, etc. in-house with you as the guru (or that ethereal 'work for food' student oft referred to by mankind ). Your goal is to be a mover in that 'new insurance world'.

[CaptainHappyMeal]

You be dreaming?

Thats the tragedy..

[joshz]

This once worked with my doctor. I said:

"Hey, give me this operation for free, and if I survive I will come back to you and pay you in full or my next operation. I will also tell all of my friends of how you saved my life. That will be sure to bring you business!".

SEO is marketing. You don't see...

Nevermind. My blood pressure is already high as a hippy and it's not even 9AM.