Page 2 - Hiring: Full Time SEO Expert (60-80k/y)

My kind of SEO :-) We deal the same way, we even charge the about the same per hour (550 NOK+tax), but in addition we promise not to work for competitors, not to use our clients websites in our own advertising and not to use any questionable SEO methods.

We scare off many potetional clients since we refuse to give any references to past work, but on the other hand many current clients refer new clients to us.

If you know much at all about SEO you can simply hang out at SEO forums and find out who knows their stuff. That's how I have found pros to look at a few things for me.

ferrett77,

Do you have a home page?

Sent you an email as well...

Regards,

Matt

www.lakeviewstudios.com

I replied to your email, but it was from my hotmail.com account i use for when i have to give an email

you can call at 305-433-7535 us

I have voice over ip , so I can call you back depending on your location

I should probably but out on this one cause I am certainly not qualified but if you limit yourself to people with five years experience you could be missing out some great SEO experts. Whatever people were doing five years ago for SEO, I am sure they are not doing now. You need someone who knows what is going on now. So if I were hiring someone I would look at their resume and see what they are ranked well for. Is it a highly competitive term? Shop around and see who knows their stuff. Some people are good at sales and some people are good at SEO. Don't go with what they say they can do. Go with who can prove their worth.

I hope you don't mind my two cents. I am sure you will find a great SEO person here. I think they have some of the brightest people on this forum!

Sorvoja, I LIKE your new avatar. Welcome to non-smoking team ;)




There must be a scandinavian connection between us. Our methods are very much alike....




Some of us protect our clients privacy. We give away example listings from our own webservices, but don't reveal whom we have worked with. It is a major factor for some high profile companies and organisations. A 10-20K non-disclosure agreements of course has some affect to issue ;)

yeah, that could be true in some cases

but I just don't believe the hype

maybe I havn't been doing it long enough to understand

it just seems like if you sell seo services

when people type

"seo"
"search engine optimization"
"website marketing"
"internet marketing"
"search engine marketing"
"website optimization"

your site should come up for at least one or 2 of them

I mean wouldn't your site be the one you started workin on

seoinc list clients
bruce clay list his own rankings
jill whalen list clients
we build pages listed clients up to last year

it seems like a pretty normal thing to do

There is a lot of fish in the sea... Many people don't use the main terms - heck, most even don't know what the terms SEO or SEM mean (or even their existance). Some of those are very alianated from real world searches regular business owners / marketing personnel use. And that is where the money comes from...

I agree... these terms are normal for us, but for the average webmasters trying to improve their sites, they might be using crazy keywords like "sell more online" or "make my website better"

an awesome SEO expert and not rank well for SEO. Reason being SEO or search engine optimization is too damn competitive. Unless the site you are optomizing for is equally as competitive, which I doubt, I wouldn't say that was a good way to decide. When it comes to optimizing for SEO or search engine optimization keywords, I would venture to say that the sites that rank well may not be so much better at it but better financed! So I don't think that is a good comparison. And I hadn't thought about the privacy issue but that is an excellent point. But for the SEO experts why not have a few sample sites. I can understand not wanting to give away all your secrets but you could have some sites that are for show only. Or at least a logical explination of how you will get that person there.

I used to go to this other forum and I am not going to say where but there was this person that was always talking all this talk about SEO and I looked at the site. It was an SEO site and the site sucked! I am no fool. I may not know as much as the rest of you but I know who knows their stuff and who doesn't. Because they are the ones making money! And the ones who don't, well don't!

[QUOTE=EGOL]If someone is an "SEO Expert" with 5 years experience I would think that they could produce $60K on their own? If you are going to pay them $60K then would they not need to generate well more than that for you?

I have 5 years experience doing SEO and I make way, way less than $60K! What am I doing wrong?

(I wish there was a book on how to build one's SEO business to be highly profitable. I spend 45 hours/week doing SEO work/running my SEO business, yet making nowhere near $60K.)

Well.. I think there are many ways. I am not the best one to answer this, but off the top of my head, here are 2 ways.

1. The easy way. Elance! go to elance.com and just start bidding on projects. There are so many clowns out there on elance. So, with your experience, you should build a good reputations really fast! (You can make a portfolio with your projects)

2. The not so easy way. You can find a good affiliate program, and start to promote it! Find so many of them here www.cj.com

I am sure there are many other ways, may be other people can help?

Hi netsites! and welcome to the forum :-)

To make 60k you must have clients that value your time, I charge around 70 USD per hour, which is the same I make doing affiliate programs. I guess it is possible to charge a lot more for the clean SEO, but I opt not to do so. The reasons will be explained in my 1000th post.

You are working 45hours a week that equals about 2100 hours; if you make 60.000 a year then it is only a little under 30 USD an hour. 30 USD is not much for SEO work, so if you make less after five years then you are not charging your clients enough. Try asking for more money, and drop the low paying clients. It is better (and more fun) to focus of affiliate problems then to do SEO for peanuts, once you start outranking real business with affiliate websites they will ask you to do their SEO, and you can charge whatever you feel you deserve.