Does anybody do SEO for $ here, and have proven results?

If I wanted to optimize my site to get into the same index as my competition and be on the same page. Is there anybody here who could help, and what do you charge?

There are many... and many at different stages of SEO Development, form new [and need a client to be 'not new'] to "done-their-own-domain" and think a good way to make some extra bucks, to web designers with a SEO Hobby, to standalone professional SEO freelancers to firms...

Risk and rewards are equal to the costs...

If you're looking for someone under a $1000 that 's usually "all risk and no reward" to $30-40K+ and that tends to be all reward but obviously the cost is high.

I would ask for many to quote your project - and then pit them off against each other so you can get "the right one".

Here's my ambition. I've created an NHL fights forum/youtube type site. I used the vbulletin forum script/vbSEO/vbSEO sitemap tools to get started with optimizing. There is sooooo much to customize in it, I have no idea what to do. The site is now browsable by domain name and is obviously top of the list, but all my keywords, description etc, doesn't get me anywhere near my competition in the index. I tried googles adwords and spent $500 with no ads anywhere. I was extremely mad because there is no proof from google or myself to determine where my site was being advertised and who was clicking. So now I have given up all hope and basically get traffic by hitting other forums adding my site name and logo in my signature.

Just do your competitor analysis & then experiment with their own tricks on them,try their tricks in your site

But the problem is....even if you can do all the things your competitors are doing [which will be unknown to you] at best, you can reach the level they are at....not beyond that.

Basing optimization campaign seeing competitors is like shooting in the dark. You don't know what a particular "trick" is all about...you just see it and implement it....you don't know whether it's white hat or black hat, whether it can be done in a better way or not, whether it can be substituted by something worthy or not.

SEO doesn't work by analyzing competitors - of course you can see who all are linking to your competitors and try getting links from them...but there are many other things that go into optimizing your site besides link [which of course is the major part]

If Analysis of Competitors can do everything then what we are doing here??
Along with Analysis , correct implementation of same analysed tactics is very important .....and for successful implementation an experienced SEO professional is required.
Analysing your Competitors and deriving well defined SEO Strategy in itself is big challenge.
Its not that easy to chase them by following their theories. In fact its bad practice to do so. Only An Experienced SEO Professional can find anything informative by just analysing their competitors, any person new to SEO or Average guy can't formulate any tactics by analysing competition.

Personally I never bother about what my competitors are doing . Stick to your own best practices, be patient , keep on refining your own strategy using valuable Feedback offered by Google Analytics Traffic Stats.

Still have any queries come to SEO CHAT Always there to help you.

i agree with u guys

Thank you, I value your response. I did set up a google analytics account, only because the vbSEO control panel had a text field to add my analytics code. I have no idea what it does or what I’m supposed to do with it. Ultimately, I think this is why you guys are good at what you do. I’ve got ten years experience in network engineering and web design. The whole SEO thing is literally a completely different language to me. I just don’t get it. Everything I do to try and get myself ahead winds up doing nothing. I do see in my ACP linkback references, although I don’t know what they are or mean. Only that they are links to somebody elses sites and I didn’t put them there. I notice a lot about others mentioning linkbacks and adding them to my site. How do I do this? Do I have to ask for the other sites permission? Is it against the law or search engine rules? Thank you to everybody, you’re helping me learn.

Hey, the first response to your thread says it all. If you spend a 1000 bucks, you get a not so reliable SEO. When you spend 10 to 20 grands, you get the most reliable one, but on the expense of the cost. How about dropping in an email to 'seosyllogis' at 'gmail' dot 'com' for a free quote? Don't worry, I am not talking about $10000 per month. Just try it out, and maybe, you could gain your spot in the SERP. One thing however, if you are expecting page 1 result, that too, a top 5 ranking within something like 1 month, forget it. I will help you gain ranking, and probably, some worthy traffic too..

By default the content network is on which mean your ads were available on any/every domain that was remotely related to hockey / sports.

No sense getting mad - your ignorance cause the cost not Googles.

Before you get to drive on the road people need to learn and then pass an exam... in Adwords you still need to learn... the exam is optional - if you really don't care how you "blow money" Google isn't going to stop you [so be sure you direct your anger at yourelf].

Wow. I apologize if I had offended you. This was not the intent. My anger was out of frustration. Google plainly suggests for help to contact their support staff. I did that 6 times over 2 weeks. Nobody ever responded. It was one month later I got an email from the support staff noting "we noticed your ad campaign has been deleted, is there anything we can do to help"? I replied back and never heard anything. I tried the google adword forums and they too went ignored. That was what I meant of being angry. Google's adword instructions and how too's are more like "novice" instructions and don't get down to the granular level of understanding not everybody knows how to do it. That is why I ditched the whole concept and came here seeking advice as to how I can get myself noticed.

Please understand, I'm not in any way shape or form trying to get a "1" seed on the first page. Or a "1" seed on any page. All I would like is to be seen when searching by keyword just like my competitors. Hopefully somewhere on the first or second page. That's it, it would be great to be number one, but I can wait and let my site do the talking with the traffic I gain over time. If you search Hockey Fights I'd like to be on the first page of 20 somewhere.

Does your GA(Google Analytics) account is working fine??
Are you getting complete traffic reports related to visitors, traffic sources, Bounce rate and so on.. there would be more than 40+ different types of reports related to traffic stats; those if analyzed properly can give you quite interesting data that can be used to improve your rankings.

Yes this is very true, everyone has command in his own field/key area and that comes with experience. you must be very well aware of this fact as you too have rich 10+ years Exp. in Networking & designing.



This happens with everyone.. who is new in SEO ...Expecting from SE and getting same is quite difficult in beginning ...and getting something closer to expectations is quite fair. Don't worry stay there keep on correcting your loop holes ..

Above technique is used to increase Link Popularity, Exchanging links with your theme relevant sites is one of those hundreds of SEO techniques to achieve Rankings, and getting One Way Inbound Links has been proven and successful so far to get good ranks.

SEO is integrated process which binds up large no. of very minute to very large activities.
SEO friendly web site Design + SEO Friendly Web development
If you have above NOW apply SEO Techniques/ Tips/Tactics..Result would be nice Ranks on Major Search Engines. BUT BE PATIENT

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