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If you ask how to build links you will get a flood of answers that include: directories, articles, press releases, link exchange..... the common advice is wrong.

You will also find that the recommended advice is usually... "get more links"... when it should be "get better links".

The common advice is almost always wrong. That is why only a few people are making money.

Plus, a lot of people who can not make money on their own sites decide to do SEO for others.

Finally... lots of people start out doing SEO as an employee on a powerful site that ranks pages high and immediately. Then they decide that they are experts at SEO. When they take on clients who have weak sites they then can't understand why the site will not rank.

OK... I'll shut up... this is probably an example of a person with high rep giving bull**** advice.

lol....

I cann't seem to remember you giving bad advice..... It is just mine was the first post.... I LMAO when i read your response... Thanks..

When he implied that I do! [that's really bad advice!]

What is a "do follow" blog and what blogs do you guys recommend?

patience.

A dofollow blog is a blog where the links from comments share the blogs PR... Basically it means your comment actually has some link juice and is useful for more than direcing traffic to your site...

I have never read such a bunch of fence sitters answers in all my life guys if you have nothing to say dont say anything
Firstly focus on keywords there are tools on the home page of this site plus other tools all over the net. Once you have established your key word make sure that you include them in the body of text within your website try not to exceed 5% density then you must get links from quality relevant sites which basicaly means tons of emails i recomend you get a php directory which will have tools to help manage your campaign the words used for the actual link is called anchor text and you should share your keywords among these for google i have found this to be the singularly most powerfull effect.
Directories are the same get in as many as you can remembering to share out your anchor text. Finaly the most important thing to remember is content the more original well written content you have the more organic links you will recieve and the better you will rank there are far more things to learn but that is a good start.
ppp

The forum is full of information where anyone with due deligence can find it more quickly than waiting for a bunch of people re-write it all for free...

Now boys & girls let's stop fence sitting and scrutinize this post:



Surely anyone that comes to an SEO domain would go to the mainpage and see "tools"... if not they shouldn't be doing their own SEO.



Well I can see why you're not fence sitting - the piles are in your *** and now you're advice is full of ****?

Please show us evidence that 5% (or less) is better than 6%, or 10% or 100%... or are you simply guessing here?



Google says these link types are not desirable and are "low quality"... how'd you determine they are of high quality?



That pretty vague advice... sound more like fence sitting to me.

IT's also not very accurate... original well written content is highly subjective... "well written - can mean without spelling and grammar mistakes" and "original - no one else has it on lione"... but neither of these are overly helpful to ranks if the "original, well written content" can't make people link.

So your overly advice "SUCKS"... my best advice to you is avoid posting un-needed rhetoric... and at the very least be sure of your facts.

...and I'll patently wait to debate your BS about keyword desnity.

Keyword density is much discussed throughout this forum and beyond and it is widely considered that 1% is sufficient for google and up to 5% is needed for yahoo as for up to 100% as you seem to think would be ok try writing a page repeating the same keyword over again and watch what happens to your site and the reason i tried to help the newbie was that his question was how to start so the sarcastic rubbish that came before it wasnt needed especialy as it was repeated and if you dont know what good original content means i sugest you get a job more suitable to your level of inteligence and frankly the thought of it being faster to first read the whole forum and then decide how prioritise the information faster than reading a few well written replies is moronic and perhaps when starting out they may actualy go straight to the forum without checking out the tools so i was indeed trying to be helpfull i remember starting out clueless and lost and and just trying to give back some of the advice i got. As for the type of link google find desirable that information is freely available from google i.e. text links from relavant sites that are content rich is a quality link pr also helps i hope i have explained myself to your satisfaction although i am already questioning why i have bothered

So your overly advice "SUCKS"... my best advice to you is avoid posting un-needed rhetoric... and at the very least be sure of your facts.

...and I'll patently wait to debate your BS about keyword desnity.
The words pot kettle and black spring to mind

Hey PPP,

I just looked at your website.

Sorry to say but my moneys on Fathom

I have written an article freely without density in mind, the topic is focused on a "4 worded phrase", I really enjoy writing that page.. After many months, it went to position 1. I check density of that page. It was well a bit high that other persons may call it "stuffing".

But I write NATURALLY....This means, Google is very wise to read and rank quality content. Keyword density can spoil content quality. Write for your visitors not for search engine.

"Widely considered" isn't overly useful advice... that means if no one tested it... then everyone could be wrong... "WIDELY"

Slap up a page with your "perfect" density scale and see what happens?

Page content does absolutely nothing without links on all search engines that matter "SO" density of the keywords in that same content don't matter much "without links"... and with links you don't need any specific density because all desnities are extremely inferior to links... and as such how can measuring be important to ranking?

Answer this - if you rank #1 for any density that isn't 1% for Google, and 5% for Yahoo and then made the density "your prefect suggestion" and removed all links - will it remain #1?

...according to you it should... [a reverse engineering solution to determine how important some specific variable is]

If it can't retain ranks that non-perfect densities achieved - surely your advice isn't all that great... can we agree on that?

Lastly - don't challenge me with vague suggestions about what others consider as true - (widely or not)...

"YOUR ADVISING HERE AND IT YOUR EXPERT ADVICE IN QUESTION" not someone elses claims [widely or otherwise].

He said, she said, they said don't cut it if you're advising others based on your own experience... please state... "I'm not really an expert but lots of people who I don't really know said 'keyword density is important and it should be...'"

Only amateurs pretend to be experts to those that can't or won't challenge their advices... and I really, truly want you or some of those widely known data sets to prove me incorrect.

WOW!!! If only all our members put that much thought into their posts...



At one time the flatness of the earth was much discussed as is the theory that we never landed on the moon, that our earth is billions of years old and many other hogwash nonesense but strangely discussion of matter does not make it reality... keyword density has been dead for sometime...
You start a page and put your main keyword 500 times and then tell me you ranked for anything slightly competitive and I will bow...