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Old April 22nd, 2008, 08:30 AM
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Aim to take the advice that is the most agreed on... so ive this thread another day, maybe two.. tally up the results and you'll have your answer!!
But I do agree with patience being a necessary virtue.

If you ask how to build links you will get a flood of answers that include: directories, articles, press releases, link exchange..... the common advice is wrong.

You will also find that the recommended advice is usually... "get more links"... when it should be "get better links".

The common advice is almost always wrong. That is why only a few people are making money.

Plus, a lot of people who can not make money on their own sites decide to do SEO for others.

Finally... lots of people start out doing SEO as an employee on a powerful site that ranks pages high and immediately. Then they decide that they are experts at SEO. When they take on clients who have weak sites they then can't understand why the site will not rank.

OK... I'll shut up... this is probably an example of a person with high rep giving bull**** advice.
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Avoid posting questions here and taking the advice of the first person to respond..... And, every person with high reputation will give bad advice now and then.
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 09:27 AM
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EGOL agrees: what's so funny... I give bad advice all of the time? Sometimes intentionally lol
I cann't seem to remember you giving bad advice..... It is just mine was the first post.... I LMAO when i read your response... Thanks..
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I cann't seem to remember you giving bad advice..... It is just mine was the first post.... I LMAO when i read your response... Thanks..


When he implied that I do! [that's really bad advice!]
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I agree forums and blogs offer alot of info and many are willing to help you when it comes to questions once you start implementing what you have learned. Add a signature and work with "do follow" blogs and forums and you will be killing two birds with one stone and working on back links for your site as well.


What is a "do follow" blog and what blogs do you guys recommend?

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What is a "do follow" blog and what blogs do you guys recommend?
A dofollow blog is a blog where the links from comments share the blogs PR... Basically it means your comment actually has some link juice and is useful for more than direcing traffic to your site...

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wow loads of nonsense

I have never read such a bunch of fence sitters answers in all my life guys if you have nothing to say dont say anything
Firstly focus on keywords there are tools on the home page of this site plus other tools all over the net. Once you have established your key word make sure that you include them in the body of text within your website try not to exceed 5% density then you must get links from quality relevant sites which basicaly means tons of emails i recomend you get a php directory which will have tools to help manage your campaign the words used for the actual link is called anchor text and you should share your keywords among these for google i have found this to be the singularly most powerfull effect.
Directories are the same get in as many as you can remembering to share out your anchor text. Finaly the most important thing to remember is content the more original well written content you have the more organic links you will recieve and the better you will rank there are far more things to learn but that is a good start.
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I am One Month into SEO and learning a LOT of information in a CLUMP it feels like.

I was wondering if the more experienced SEO's would mind giving me one peice of advice to help me get the most from learning SEO.

With there literally being an infinite amount of things I could read, study, or learn more about, I wanted to know what you suggest I focus on in the baby stages

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I have never read such a bunch of fence sitters answers in all my life guys if you have nothing to say dont say anything


The forum is full of information where anyone with due deligence can find it more quickly than waiting for a bunch of people re-write it all for free...

Now boys & girls let's stop fence sitting and scrutinize this post:

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Firstly focus on keywords there are tools on the home page of this site plus other tools all over the net.


Surely anyone that comes to an SEO domain would go to the mainpage and see "tools"... if not they shouldn't be doing their own SEO.

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Once you have established your key word make sure that you include them in the body of text within your website try not to exceed 5% density


Well I can see why you're not fence sitting - the piles are in your *** and now you're advice is full of ****?

Please show us evidence that 5% (or less) is better than 6%, or 10% or 100%... or are you simply guessing here?

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then you must get links from quality relevant sites which basicaly means tons of emails i recomend you get a php directory which will have tools to help manage your campaign the words used for the actual link is called anchor text and you should share your keywords among these for google i have found this to be the singularly most powerfull effect. Directories are the same get in as many as you can remembering to share out your anchor text.


Google says these link types are not desirable and are "low quality"... how'd you determine they are of high quality?

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Finaly the most important thing to remember is content the more original well written content you have the more organic links you will recieve and the better you will rank there are far more things to learn but that is a good start.


That pretty vague advice... sound more like fence sitting to me.

IT's also not very accurate... original well written content is highly subjective... "well written - can mean without spelling and grammar mistakes" and "original - no one else has it on lione"... but neither of these are overly helpful to ranks if the "original, well written content" can't make people link.

So your overly advice "SUCKS"... my best advice to you is avoid posting un-needed rhetoric... and at the very least be sure of your facts.

...and I'll patently wait to debate your BS about keyword desnity.
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keyword density

Keyword density is much discussed throughout this forum and beyond and it is widely considered that 1% is sufficient for google and up to 5% is needed for yahoo as for up to 100% as you seem to think would be ok try writing a page repeating the same keyword over again and watch what happens to your site and the reason i tried to help the newbie was that his question was how to start so the sarcastic rubbish that came before it wasnt needed especialy as it was repeated and if you dont know what good original content means i sugest you get a job more suitable to your level of inteligence and frankly the thought of it being faster to first read the whole forum and then decide how prioritise the information faster than reading a few well written replies is moronic and perhaps when starting out they may actualy go straight to the forum without checking out the tools so i was indeed trying to be helpfull i remember starting out clueless and lost and and just trying to give back some of the advice i got. As for the type of link google find desirable that information is freely available from google i.e. text links from relavant sites that are content rich is a quality link pr also helps i hope i have explained myself to your satisfaction although i am already questioning why i have bothered



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The forum is full of information where anyone with due deligence can find it more quickly than waiting for a bunch of people re-write it all for free...

Now boys & girls let's stop fence sitting and scrutinize this post:



Surely anyone that comes to an SEO domain would go to the mainpage and see "tools"... if not they shouldn't be doing their own SEO.



Well I can see why you're not fence sitting - the piles are in your *** and now you're advice is full of ****?

Please show us evidence that 5% (or less) is better than 6%, or 10% or 100%... or are you simply guessing here?



Google says these link types are not desirable and are "low quality"... how'd you determine they are of high quality?



That pretty vague advice... sound more like fence sitting to me.

IT's also not very accurate... original well written content is highly subjective... "well written - can mean without spelling and grammar mistakes" and "original - no one else has it on lione"... but neither of these are overly helpful to ranks if the "original, well written content" can't make people link.

So your overly advice "SUCKS"... my best advice to you is avoid posting un-needed rhetoric... and at the very least be sure of your facts.

...and I'll patently wait to debate your BS about keyword desnity.

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So your overly advice "SUCKS"... my best advice to you is avoid posting un-needed rhetoric... and at the very least be sure of your facts.

...and I'll patently wait to debate your BS about keyword desnity.
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Keyword density is much discussed throughout this forum and beyond and it is widely considered that 1% is sufficient for google and up to 5% is needed for yahoo as for up to 100% as you seem to think would be ok try writing a page repeating the same keyword over again and watch what happens to your site and the reason i tried to help the newbie was that his question was how to start so the sarcastic rubbish that came before it wasnt needed especialy as it was repeated and if you dont know what good original content means i sugest you get a job more suitable to your level of inteligence and frankly the thought of it being faster to first read the whole forum and then decide how prioritise the information faster than reading a few well written replies is moronic and perhaps when starting out they may actualy go straight to the forum without checking out the tools so i was indeed trying to be helpfull i remember starting out clueless and lost and and just trying to give back some of the advice i got. As for the type of link google find desirable that information is freely available from google i.e. text links from relavant sites that are content rich is a quality link pr also helps i hope i have explained myself to your satisfaction although i am already questioning why i have bothered

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I just looked at your website.

Sorry to say but my moneys on Fathom
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.. that 1% is sufficient for goo