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Old May 7th, 2008, 08:00 AM
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Description tags will not make any difference in ranking, you should know this.[/COLOR]



Where you get this info...?? I meant source of that info...

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Where you get this info...?? I meant source of that info...

What do want to ask meta description is worth less it is very clear.
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What do want to ask meta description is worth less it is very clear.


If you are saying something, you should at least show the proof....same thing I m asking...
I mean I am not agree with your previous post that meta description doesn't help in rankings...if it is correct...do let me know with giving some examples...
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Looks like the consensus is that an experienced link builder is not to be found =P

Has anyone hired someone inhouse for this type of job? Seems like a student might be a good choice, as they would have to be tech friendly and learn quickly.

But would they have the dedication to search through all the crap on an hourly wage? Or would it be better to pay them on some kind of link by link basis after I've trained them?

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Looks like the consensus is that an experienced link builder is not to be found =P

Has anyone hired someone inhouse for this type of job? Seems like a student might be a good choice, as they would have to be tech friendly and learn quickly.

But would they have the dedication to search through all the crap on an hourly wage? Or would it be better to pay them on some kind of link by link basis after I've trained them?

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Low-end stuff is as good as doing nothing...

It isn't just a case of 'getting the links'... you need the ones that count.

It isn't just a case of 'ensuring keyword anchors'...

It isn't just a case of 'checking if the page your link will be on is indexed'...

It isn't just a case of 'checking for PageRank'...

It isn't just a case of 'checking for tricks that kill link value'...

It isn't just a case of 'checking backlink of others that got a link from there to see if it counted'...

It isn't just a case of 'related topics'...

It isn't just a case of 'number of links on the page'...

It isn't just a case of 'directory submissions'...

It isn't just a case of '3-way submissions'...

It isn't just a case of paying for 'PPI submissions'...

It isn't just a case of 'article submissions or press releases or any other link creation scheme'...

It isn't just a case of 'supplement6al pages look identical to primary indexed pages so "is it" or "is it not" indexed in primary results - these are the only links that matter'...

... if the link bait that makes people wantta link "just because" isn't there - no cheap offer link development person is going to get you the links that matter.

The "developer" MUST think outside the box... and that tends to be very expensive because the average link developer is a "submit & forget type" or "there's your link -- if it doesn't bring in any juice that isn't my problem".
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Think about getting a really talented person to work in house and train them yourself.

If you hire someone to hunt links for your "widget store" the linkbuilder can keep track of where each of your links comes from then when done working for you can email all of your competitors and say..."Yo! I think that I can get you 50 great links for $2000." Then instead of contacting 5000 sites to get those 50 links, he will go straight to the sites that are cooperative.

You paid for the linkbuilder's research, to find sites that will link to you and then the linkbuilder sells the cream three times, five times, ten times..

Now, guess what? You need more links to stay competitive. And the linkbuilder is raking in your dough.
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Think about getting a really talented person to work in house and train them yourself.

If you hire someone to hunt links for your "widget store" the linkbuilder can keep track of where each of your links comes from then when done working for you can email all of your competitors and say..."Yo! I think that I can get you 50 great links for $2000." Then instead of contacting 5000 sites to get those 50 links, he will go straight to the sites that are cooperative.

You paid for the linkbuilder's research, to find sites that will link to you and then the linkbuilder sells the cream three times, five times, ten times..

Now, guess what? You need more links to stay competitive. And the linkbuilder is raking in your dough.


The theory sound good don't it.

I went through 5 [training them for everything they need to know about links] and lost them all because they could make more money without me.

"Blood" was the exception... unfortunately, Seph is unconscious in the hospital these days and will be there for another 2 months... so Spherica is a dead end.
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Think about getting a really talented person to work in house and train them yourself.

If you hire someone to hunt links for your "widget store" the linkbuilder can keep track of where each of your links comes from then when done working for you can email all of your competitors and say..."Yo! I think that I can get you 50 great links for $2000." Then instead of contacting 5000 sites to get those 50 links, he will go straight to the sites that are cooperative.

You paid for the linkbuilder's research, to find sites that will link to you and then the linkbuilder sells the cream three times, five times, ten times..

Now, guess what? You need more links to stay competitive. And the linkbuilder is raking in your dough.


Very good point, thanks.

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Three of my employees have worked on links. One graduated from college and got a nice job unrelated to SEO. Two are still here but after the low hanging fruit is harvested we value content creation more than hunting links. We will try repicking the same trees next fall.

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I mean I am not agree with your previous post that meta description doesn't help in rankings...

Do you have any proof that it helps??
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Do you have any proof that it helps??

Thanks for this question actually some one still believe that meta tags is factor for ranking even I have seen lots of company's seo services page that they do optimization for meta tag his seo packages, and I have seen lots of time in this forum people are always ask about meta tag but I strongly believe that Meta tag is worthless effort.
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Thanks for this question actually some one still believe that meta tags is factor for ranking even I have seen lots of company's seo services page that they do optimization for meta tag his seo packages, and I have seen lots of time in this forum people are always ask about meta tag but I strongly believe that Meta tag is worthless effort.

I was just checking your website that you put in your signature www[dot]itcontractor[dot]com and I find one interesting thing there:
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<meta name="Description" content="Umbrella Companies, News and Advice for IT Contractors on IR35-Umbrella Companies, PAYE Umbrella Company, IT Contract jobs Umbrella Companies, insurance and mortgages, Umbrella Company UK."/>
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First thing if meta description is not helpful in rankings, why you have put this on your website..
Second thing do you know the difference between description and keywords.....If above one is description then how the meta keywords are???

I have a advice for you, at least do a little research before saying something...so that you can proof that...
You were asking for proof in your previous post so just remove your meta tags from your websites...and then check your rankings...ok..you will get answer...
Just give a try..

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