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    What a pain in the butt for UK website owners..


    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17745938

    Governments love passing laws without thinking through the practical implications...

    Still a 500,000 for non complenece should mean most people will have to do something...

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    Is England trying to drive away UK business owners??

    90% of people probably don't know what a cookie is. 99% of people look for images and buttons to tell them what to do on websites. Do you really think they will read a pop-up saying what cookies do.

    It says website managers must:

    Tell people that the cookies are there
    Explain what the cookies are doing
    Obtain visitors' consent to store a cookie on their device

    Source: BBC news

    If this law allows these 3 to be displayed in the privacy policy I don't mind.. but if I have to tell them on my home page with blinking red text....
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    yep... Even worse would be the amount of people that do not even realise the software they are using is sending out cookies anyway. Most shopping cart programs would send a cookie as well as heaps of other types of software.

    On top of this many people have there browsers set to stop popups..

    Maybee the UK Gov't see these fines as a way of solving their budget problems....

    EGOL agrees: Somebody in Australia is sleeping at the switch... they should have done this first!
    ha ha... I would bet money they will see it and soon follow...
    Last edited by gazzahk; May 18th, 2012 at 07:08 PM.
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    Really good video here.... entertainment value is very high!

    http://breakingnewsworld.net/2011/06/eu-cookie-law-will-hurt-website-owners-severely/

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    Forgive me but I'm not so much technically minded.

    My main site is an e-commerce site, we sell products, what does that mean for me?

    Are we still allowed to track visitors movements on our site? pageviews etc.. from what I'm reading it seems like no..

    What makes me laugh is in the UK we have millions and millions of security cameras everywhere tracking us, but I'm not allowed to see who is coming to my online shop and what they're doing? f off
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    Oh not to mention.. who did I elect in the EU to make laws for me?

    Oh that is right! no one.. so I have no freedom and live under a dictatorship, just wonderful.
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    Originally Posted by DarrenHaye
    from what I'm reading it seems like no..
    Darren, I think you are right. I am sorry to hear that.
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    Originally Posted by EGOL
    Darren, I think you are right. I am sorry to hear that.
    From how I see it, if you're entering my shop, my property, I have a right to know what you're doing.

    Its absolutely inconceivable that this law be allowed.
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    I believe that it will place UK webmasters at a severe disadvantage to webmasters hosting from other English-speaking countries. This will be especially true for info sites as they will not be a pain in the *** for visitors in the UK.

    People in the UK will like it that my site does interrupt their visit.
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    What a PITA. I think their going to have a real problem enforcing this law.
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    Originally Posted by Test-ok
    What a PITA. I think their going to have a real problem enforcing this law.
    It would be nice if everyone in the UK just said get lost with this law we don't want it.. that is what should happen, all though it wont.

    the UK recently blacked out the piratebay

    Not long ago also it was changed so when you sign up to an internet provider, you actually have to ask for them to not filter out porn sites... :|

    Soon we will need ID's to even access the internet.
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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/18/cookie_law_ico/

    ^

    Just read that

    "the ICO will wait for users to complain about cookies on particular sites before investigating individual organisations for breaching the data protection law."

    I cannot imagine any normal user actually complaining about a site not asking for permission to use cookies, I think it will be the opposite, people complaining about having to.
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    Originally Posted by DarrenHaye
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/18/cookie_law_ico/

    ^

    Just read that

    "the ICO will wait for users to complain about cookies on particular sites before investigating individual organisations for breaching the data protection law."

    I cannot imagine any normal user actually complaining about a site not asking for permission to use cookies, I think it will be the opposite, people complaining about having to.
    That or one complains about their competitors.
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    Originally Posted by EGOL
    Really good video here.... entertainment value is very high!

    http://breakingnewsworld.net/2011/06/eu-cookie-law-will-hurt-website-owners-severely/
    lol... The problem with ignoring it (as sort of recommended in that video) is the 500,000 pound fine.... That is quite a risk.

    I would think the best bet is moving you hosting to a country that does not have the law. Anything else is going to either kill your business or be virtually impossible to do. Once again most people would not even be aware that there software sends out cookies...

    IT is a boost for all those ecommerce sites etc that compete with UK sites...

    This will also make reverse SEO a whole lot easier... Dob in your competator for breaking the law (if they ignore) and the 500,000 pounds (996850 U.S. dollars ) fine should effectivley kill them off.

    No wonder Europe in such a mess... They do not want small business to flourish...

    What a bad law..
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    Originally Posted by gazzahk
    I would think the best bet is moving you hosting to a country that does not have the law.
    I've been looking in to this and have not found any solid evidence to support it. I can imagine it would be 'UK business owners' before 'where the server is'.
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    But I did find some depressing information about G analytics...

    "An analytic cookie might not appear to be as intrusive as others that might track a user across multiple sites but you still need consent."

    I am assuming AWStats would be made redundant also, unless UK website owners say 'We use AWStats to track you, is this ok?'*user presses the back button* Awww

    Also:
    "It is therefore of paramount importance that users be provided with clear and comprehensive information when engaging in any activity which could result in such storage or gaining of access"
    source: mykeblack.com/seo/eu-cookie-directive

    So any website with a login system, all e-commerce websites, any web site that uses analytics..

    It would be easier for me to say: 'All websites, with the exception of .gov websites'(yes really)
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