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Old June 27th, 2003, 08:23 AM
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Copyright Infringement

Take a look at http://www.rustybrick.com/company_technologies.php

and now take a look at this rip off at http://www.compallsystems.com/InternetSolutions.htm

They didn't even bother removing my URLs from the code they ripped off. So I easily found them doing a link:mydomain in alltheweb. they stole most of the content my company wrote.

I sent them an email, but no response. it is probably some kid, b/c no one answers the phone there.

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Old June 27th, 2003, 08:41 AM
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Find out where its hosted and tell them.....they should help.
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Old June 27th, 2003, 09:24 AM
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send a cease and desist immediately. to any and all email addresses, physical addresses and definetly to the hosting company!!! hosting companies are very liable and are usually very compliant, if the offending site owner does not take action!!

in your cease and desist give a reasonable amount of time (5 business days) to remove the content, if it does not take place by then.... contact your lawyer and begin the process of filing an infringement suit.

be very very clear in the cease and desist about dates times and the content matter. u don't need a lawyer to right a good cease and desist.



thats just scummy stuff....

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Old June 27th, 2003, 09:57 AM
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Which Cease and Desist Letter do you think is best to use as a foundation?

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Their LOGO is a default Paint Shop Pro 7 'Tube' (a default button). The menu they use is also some default buttons in Jasc.

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Our Web designers have the experience and knowledge to maximize the potential of your site by attracting the Web user and enhancing their experience on line. Compall Systems creates fast loading, high-quality, eye-catching graphics.

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Old June 30th, 2003, 09:45 AM
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How does one look up the host for a particular domain name? I did a look up on the ip and then a lookup on who owns the ip block, but doesn't always mean its the same company.

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Registered through: EpicDomains.com
Probably also their host I think.

I did a query http://www.nic.com/nic_info/whois.htm for compallsystems.com

Result:
Registrant:
Compallsystems
152 Van Pelt Ave
Staten Island, New York 10303
United States

Registered through: EpicDomains.com
Domain Name: COMPALLSYSTEMS.COM
Created on: 28-Nov-02
Expires on: 28-Nov-05
Last Updated on: 25-Feb-03

Administrative Contact:
Baruwa, Billie compallsystems@yahoo.com
Compallsystems
152 Van Pelt Ave
Staten Island, New York 10303
United States
917-627-1199 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Baruwa, Billie compallsystems@yahoo.com
Compallsystems
152 Van Pelt Ave
Staten Island, New York 10303
United States
917-627-1199 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.THISISMYSERVER.COM
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Old June 30th, 2003, 10:47 AM
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Yea, domain name information I found out. I also think i found the host: http://www.alabanza.com/

I sent the legal dept an email, lets see how they respond.

Oh and they are part of the list that coomplies with DMCA: see the list at http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/

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How did you find the host alabanza.com ?

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Old June 30th, 2003, 11:14 AM
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a programmer of mine did a look up on the ip of the site then looked up the owners of the ip block.

not sure exactly how.

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So, rustybrick, any results yet?

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i finally got through to someone at the company via telephone (didnt speak english too well). They said i should give them until Monday to take it down.

He said he hired someone to do the site and he didnt know. I think that is BS since they are a "web design" firm. Hire someone else to do it for you...

Anyway, I already emailed their host but no response.

I dont think its a major issue yet...will keep you guys posted.

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Should have requested the companies name rustybrick - not that you would have got one!

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Here is an update...still not resolved. Figures this is the case.

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Dear Me:
Thank you for contacting Alabanza in reference to a copyright violation. Alabanza Corporation provides web services and is not responsible for monitoring the content of the sites. Alabanza's content policy, which can be viewed at http://alabanza.com/pages policy.html, prohibits the posting of
material, which is in violation of U.S. copyright laws, and reserves the right to terminate the subscriber's agreement as a result of such unlawful activity.



Alabanza is a wholesale web host provider. We lease entire servers to clients through monthly, quarterly, or annual contracts. Our clients in turn resell space on their server. The website in question was leased by our client:

Reseller info:

First Last name
email address
phone #


I have forwarded on your complaint to our reseller. Please feel free to follow-up with the reseller responsible for this space as to his actions. Alabanza considers our obligations to the DMCA met and this copyright infringement issue for Alabanza closed.



Sincerely,

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Compliance Department
Alabanza Corporation

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