Search Engines - Classic
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsSearch EnginesSearch Engines - Classic

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 12:13 PM
digitalpoint's Avatar
digitalpoint digitalpoint is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego • USA
Posts: 1,276 digitalpoint User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 21 m 55 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Inktomi Indexing...

I've never had Inktomi spider me for more than 20 hits per day... Last night I had 1,477 hits from them. Seems odd... I thought Inktomi was a paid submission engine (which I never paid), or is it just the top rankings are paid?

- Shawn

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 01:51 PM
Phoenix's Avatar
Phoenix Phoenix is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Texas!
Posts: 1,135 Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 9 h 4 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 8
Send a message via AIM to Phoenix
Shawn, thats good news buddy. They are a paid engine, but Slurp also spiders sites like the Googlebot if it likes your content enough. It probably means that you are considered some of the top documents in the Ink database. It also has to do with the amount of time your site has been online, which as I know has been many years. The longer the better, and older sites are usually in the index without having to have paid. Consider it attributed to the site age, new backlinks, increased popularity in the results themselves, and overall good HIGH value content.


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 02:26 PM
rustybrick's Avatar
rustybrick rustybrick is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Frequenter (2500 - 2999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 2,642 rustybrick User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)rustybrick User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 17 h 40 m 42 sec
Reputation Power: 8
Inktomi comes to my site daily and hits like 20+ of my pages. I never paid them a penny.

I don't have 1500 pages but it gets a majority of my pages over a few day span.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 02:34 PM
pk_synths's Avatar
pk_synths pk_synths is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Specialist (4000 - 4499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,109 pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 17 h 45 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 12
Send a message via AIM to pk_synths Send a message via Yahoo to pk_synths
Definitaly an age thing. I get around 1,500 hits a day from Ink. In January I had around 25,000 visits by Ink but I think thats because it keeps requesting a new session id for every page. Never paid them a penny and have over 5,000 pages in the index. Site is about 6 years old or so.
__________________
-PK

Litigation Support

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 03:09 PM
Phoenix's Avatar
Phoenix Phoenix is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Texas!
Posts: 1,135 Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Phoenix User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Days 9 h 4 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 8
Send a message via AIM to Phoenix
Pk, 6 years huh? Yeah that would plenty of time for Slurp to find a good portion of your site.
I have been trying to gauge how long it actually takes in terms of site age in order to get picked up permantantly by Slurp. I haven't seen anything under 2 years that gets spidered on a frequent basis unless it gets linked heavily by sites that spidered by Slurp. But again it all depends. The spectrum is wide.
As any interesting idea to follow up. If you get spidered by Inktomi on regular basis and have NOT PAID to be included into Inktomi database - how old is your site?

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 03:14 PM
BroadProspect BroadProspect is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Israel
Posts: 411 BroadProspect User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 h 23 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 6
how

how do you check how many of your pages are included in INK ?
__________________
Link Swapper - a FREE link exchange plug-in and directory add-on for your website

Crawler Alert - a FREE service which automatically sends you an email notification whenever a search engine crawler is scanning your website

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 03:17 PM
pk_synths's Avatar
pk_synths pk_synths is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Specialist (4000 - 4499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,109 pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 17 h 45 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 12
Send a message via AIM to pk_synths Send a message via Yahoo to pk_synths
Actually upon a further look it's 9 years. It seems that I'm in there for good. Always get around 1500 daily hits. Is it normal to have two Slurp bots indexing the site everyday??? I have always had two bots.

I'll be doing Inktomi research soon so I'll be around your part of the woods more often Ben

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old February 2nd, 2004, 03:42 PM
pk_synths's Avatar
pk_synths pk_synths is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Specialist (4000 - 4499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,109 pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)pk_synths User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 17 h 45 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 12
Send a message via AIM to pk_synths Send a message via Yahoo to pk_synths
Quote:
how do you check how many of your pages are included in INK ?


I posted this about a month ago. This is how I do it

Quote:
For the most accurate number of sites indexed in hotbot/inktomi goto hotbot.com

Below the search bar you'll see "CUSTOM WEB FILTERS [add]" click [add]

Next checkbox "Domain/Site" and enter your domain in the "Include" box (www.domain.com) scroll down

If you have an adult site checkbox "Block Offensive Content" and select "Never" scroll down

Click "Save"

In the search box enter in "*" minus the quotes and hit Enter.

Viola! Enjoy

-PK


Read up in this thread for more ideas http://forums.seochat.com/t6382/s.html

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 08:04 AM
awicked's Avatar
awicked awicked is offline
BlackHat SEO Pro ;)
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Midlands.. UK
Posts: 328 awicked User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 11 h 33 m 21 sec
Reputation Power: 0
my new forums is only a few weeks old and ink has visited twice in as many days, never paid for this site to be included but i have paid for other sites in the past

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 01:36 PM
digitalpoint's Avatar
digitalpoint digitalpoint is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego • USA
Posts: 1,276 digitalpoint User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 21 m 55 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Well, I must officially be on their "I like you list"... As I had another 1,480 hits from Inktomi yesterday. Still not as much as Googlebot (3,446 hits from them yesterday), but sometimes I think Googlebot visits more often than it needs.

- Shawn

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 06:09 PM
leedslad73 leedslad73 is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Leeds, England
Posts: 487 leedslad73 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 h 5 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 6
This is going to be another dumb question I can see it LOL.

How do you know which bots/spiders are visiting your site? Is it through your log files, or web stats, or is there a specific tool that does this for you?

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 06:27 PM
digitalpoint's Avatar
digitalpoint digitalpoint is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego • USA
Posts: 1,276 digitalpoint User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 21 m 55 sec
Reputation Power: 7
At the lowest level, it's through your log files... the robots will have a user agent which is logged (in most cases) to your web logs...

A few examples:

Googlebot:
www.digitalpoint.com 64.68.82.168 - - [02/Feb/2004:00:00:45 -0800] "GET /products/isp/screenshots.html HTTP/1.0" 200 13481 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

Googlebot (because of AdSense):
www.digitalpoint.com 64.68.87.69 - - [03/Feb/2004:04:36:04 -0800] "GET /lists/75016.html HTTP/1.0" 200 13193 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

Inktomi:
www.digitalpoint.com 66.196.90.163 - - [03/Feb/2004:08:10:40 -0800] "GET /lists/19800.html HTTP/1.0" 200 14773 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Slurp/cat; slurp@inktomi.com; http://www.inktomi.com/slurp.html)"


- Shawn

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 08:06 PM
EGOL's Avatar
EGOL EGOL is offline
EGOL
Click here for more information.
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Snow belt.
Posts: 6,796 EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)EGOL User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 2 Weeks 5 Days 2 h 7 m 37 sec
Reputation Power: 75
I see..... msnbot/0.* in my logs. I didn't know msn did spidering. I thought that Inktomi did that for them.

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 08:11 PM
digitalpoint's Avatar
digitalpoint digitalpoint is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego • USA
Posts: 1,276 digitalpoint User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 21 m 55 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Everyone has their own bot... the msnbot I think is going to be for Microsoft's upcoming search engine they want to use to compete with Google. Just little hits here and there from msnbot so far...

Why pay Inktomi (Yahoo) when they can go it themselves?

- Shawn

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old February 4th, 2004, 06:18 AM
leedslad73 leedslad73 is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Leeds, England
Posts: 487 leedslad73 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 4 h 5 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Thanks Shawn! I've seen the raw log files, and can see Google bot and Inktomi slurp

Is there any free software out there which will analysise your raw log files, because it'll take me ages to go through this file!

Reply With Quote
Reply