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Old November 12th, 2005, 06:30 PM
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A lot of Chinese people don't trust the internet enough to buy stuff online. But I think it is going to Change. They would trust larger companies with an established brand name though.

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It must make it difficult for overseas eccomerce sites to get people to buy stuff if everyone wants pay COD


Well there are a few misconceptions that "us English speakers" usually have.

1. Japanese (or Asians in general) usually speak English & would be fine surfing the net in English.
This is one thing that keeps US sites from getting sales. Make a localized version for the market you want costumers in. Asians are not generally comfortable with shopping online with a company they have no clue about.

2. My site is in English but I get no Japanese traffic, so the potential of Asian customers is not good.
Not true English sites don't show up first in search results on Google.co.jp or Yahoo.co.jp for what the average Japanese person would look for. No matter what the product is naturally they are going to type in a Japanese term first.

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What do you know about the differences between Baidu and Google?

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Are some of the top results on Baidu advertisements? I mean, they don't look like advertisements but they are right?

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I have interest in this. I feel that within a few years China is going to be a huge ( bigger than the US) online presence and that will give marketers millions of new customers to work with. I need to start learning more about it.

It would be great if anyone had any insight to provide.


Couldn't have put it better myself. After years on the web I eventually found several Chinese programmers who wrote me a couple of scripts and their knowledge on search engines is scary. Getting into China is hard as Cantufind.com found, but they have family there so it isn't a case of how big you are such as G/Y/M its who you know in China and how nice you are to them. Cantufind is a heavily filtered search and this is a big must in China as they may let the curtain open a bit but it will be a heck of a long time before they let Giants like the Big 3 dictate to them their searches let alone anthing else!

Just thinking aloud, not plugging Cantufind.com

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I think before you start jumping in bed with Chinese SE's you better first understand that this a Country not a company. Information is fully controlled.

I for one do not want to help in any way no matter what bs excuse you come up with any country which held american's hostage only 6 years ago (bet you all forgot about that)

Who has lied about their military build up.

Who has no interest in freedom of commerce only the money which WE generate from it.

All of you online money makers had better take note that the Chinese are funding the movement to get the UN to take control over ICANN. Socialist ditactors can't maintain their power if information is allowed to flow freely throughout the world.

Careful who you think is going to be powerful or big. Sometimes that is a very very bad thing, in this case its guaranteed.

Bonus question to all the college grads

What does a country who under values their currency.
consumes 40% more oil than they can use.
Purchased 40% more steel than they can consume normally do with all those resources?

Last a country did that it started WWII for america. They are stock piling for war.
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I could have sworn this was a post & forum about search engines.

I do believe a person should get a bit of knowledge in the country they want to target but business is business man...

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PRNews go talk on a politics forum.

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Toyko and Canada. Hmmm Seems some missles just got targeted at both these countries by a rogue state controlled by China.

One of my points with this is you can't Optimize your site for a country that controls information flow or filters content. You buy your way into communist countries ... period.
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Hi! I found this site discussing the topic: <snip>

(I'm not allowed to post links, maybe you could post it) :-p

I don't know how you people find out so old threads.If you really want to say something please start a new thread.don't drag old threads.

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Nice thread. I am a Shanghai-based SEO, have been living in China for ten years (did my undergraduate here) and speaks fluently the language although I am not Chinese. Chinese e-commerce is already huge even by international standards but the truth is it is a closed market. Barriers of entry including but not limited to language, online payment tools, IP restrictions (your site could be made inaccessible from China if any of the other sites hosted on the same server/IP has some "politically incorrect" content) or even very slow speed of access of overseas website from within China make it very difficult for any foreign-based website to build a sizeable presence in the Chinese market. Things may change substantially if the Chinese currency (the Yuan or RMB) becomes convertible in the near future. Because right now the huge majority of Chinese users just have no way to pay for services or products offered by foreign companies even if they can afford it.

At the moment if you are serious to make an inroad in the Chinese market you will defintely need a local partner in one of the major cities (Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou).

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I'm not that familiar with Chinese Search Engine, but I do like to
know more about it, and what are those features that their
Search Engine provide.

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Nice thread. I am a Shanghai-based SEO, have been living in China for ten years (did my undergraduate here) and speaks fluently the language although I am not Chinese. Chinese e-commerce is already huge even by international standards but the truth is it is a closed market. Barriers of entry including but not limited to language, online payment tools, IP restrictions (your site could be made inaccessible from China if any of the other sites hosted on the same server/IP has some "politically incorrect" content) or even very slow speed of access of overseas website from within China make it very difficult for any foreign-based website to build a sizeable presence in the Chinese market. Things may change substantially if the Chinese currency (the Yuan or RMB) becomes convertible in the near future. Because right now the huge majority of Chinese users just have no way to pay for services or products offered by foreign companies even if they can afford it.

At the moment if you are serious to make an inroad in the Chinese market you will defintely need a local partner in one of the major cities (Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou).

You should start a new thread.

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I agree

I'm new to SEO but I'm interested in understanding the Chinese market as well. I'm familiar with the culture, history and customs but do not speak the language.

I would love to be included in the information you gather and will be more than happy to share what I learn.

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nice topic so theres really Chinese search engines cool

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