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Old September 30th, 2003, 07:46 AM
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"Magic pages"

Hi

Has anyone come across:

http://www.121pops.com/magicpages/

They supposedly create "magic pages" for your website that will guarantee you a high ranking in Google and Yahoo - all for $99.

I don't believe a word of it but my marketing department received an email advertising this and asked it it would be of interest. Before I completely discount it, I wonder if anyone has had any experience of them?

Being a cynic, I suspect that they create you webpages which are considered spam/unethical by the likes of Google. And if found out...I am certainly not prepared to take the risk of being banned from Google.

Please share your experiences/thoughts

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Old September 30th, 2003, 10:36 AM
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Do you really believe it is that easy?

If it were, I'd be paying $100 for words like sex, drugs, music, mp3... I mean, they said "Top Ten" right?!

I don't think so.

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Old September 30th, 2003, 11:19 AM
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That's a mad site, they're selling both a messenger pop-up programme and a messenger pop-up blocker!

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Old October 1st, 2003, 03:40 AM
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Yeah - they are completely bonkers and so obviously just out to make a buck.

Thank goodness for sites such as seochat where webmasters can learn proper SE strategies

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Hehehe...

Too tell you the truth, I have a similar program that spits out "magic pages", and it wasn't very hard for us to do ourselves. I don't use it to make magic pages, though, we use it for a different purpose.

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Old October 1st, 2003, 10:11 AM
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Tell us a little more Manga27 - I'm interested in your "magic pages" - it all sounds most intriguing!

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Old October 1st, 2003, 10:20 AM
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I mentioned this is another thread...

I can't release the code, because it is part of another software package we own. But I can give you some easy guidelines.

Basically, you need to be able to take a URL, such as:

http : // www.domain.com/word1_word2.html

...and redirect to a script, such as a PHP page. This requires using mod_rewrite. (Remember, the page word1_word2.html doesn't exist...)

Next, when you have gotten into the script you read the URL and chop of the domain and the .HTML, so all you are left with is "word1_word2". And then you replace the "_" with a space so you get "word1 word2".

Now, you are in the beginning of a script with a variable, which is the name of the HTML file, and nothing else. Now it is time to build a page that incorporates that keyword phrase, by building random blocks of text related to that word or pulling from sources related to that keyword phrase.

In this way, the pages don't even exist until someone 'surfs' to them...and it is completely transparent to the user and to Google.

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Blimey thanks Manga27 - that is certainly very interesting.

Doing that kind of thing never even crossed my mind!

Does it benefit you do you think? (purely out of curiosity)

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Manga, I noticed your home page has a disconcerting way of changing on refresh ;-) is that one of your script functions?

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Does it benefit you do you think? (purely out of curiosity)


We are developing a 404 Error Page application. In this system, if the user surfs to:

http : // www.mydomain.com/ not-really-a-page.html

...then the system will not show them a 404 Error Page, but instead a page that is specially generated, on the fly, incorporating the keyword phrase "Not really a page". In other words, giving your site the appearance of never losing any pages, ever.
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This seems interesting and very doable. My only question is if these pages do not exist until someone attempts to go to them, then how do you get Google (or wherever) to go to these "magic pages". Usually Google will traverse links. Where would these be linked from to get them in there, and then spider once in?

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I mentioned this is another thread...

I can't release the code, because it is part of another software package we own. But I can give you some easy guidelines.

Basically, you need to be able to take a URL, such as:

http : // www.domain.com/word1_word2.html

...and redirect to a script, such as a PHP page. This requires using mod_rewrite. (Remember, the page word1_word2.html doesn't exist...)

Next, when you have gotten into the script you read the URL and chop of the domain and the .HTML, so all you are left with is "word1_word2". And then you replace the "_" with a space so you get "word1 word2".

Now, you are in the beginning of a script with a variable, which is the name of the HTML file, and nothing else. Now it is time to build a page that incorporates that keyword phrase, by building random blocks of text related to that word or pulling from sources related to that keyword phrase.

In this way, the pages don't even exist until someone 'surfs' to them...and it is completely transparent to the user and to Google.

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Old January 23rd, 2004, 11:42 PM
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I hate SEO scam artists, they give our whole industry a bad name.

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yeah...they are magic....'poof' and your money is gone sucka!

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Old January 24th, 2004, 01:34 AM
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Better than some serp results I think...

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Old January 26th, 2004, 09:37 AM
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What a welcome to the group!

I am a programmer, so I find that I want to know the process of how things work, and what they do exactly.

Never did a say that I was actually going to implement this on a live site. That would not be a smart thing to do.

I was just curious to the process.

Seems like it could be a nice way to redirect people from a 404 page inside a site to a directed page. If the product they are looking for no longer exists, you could parse the URL and run those terms through the internal site search. Instead of the regular custom 404 error page, you would get some choices of similar results within the site that might work for the user since their orig request was a discontinued product page.

But apparently I am a SEO scam artist.

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