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    Question Yes or no to Https:// in this case?


    Hi guys,

    This may be a little long & confusing (for me atleast), but i'd really appreciate any type of feedback!

    I'm a newbie and starting to work on the technical side of things for my sites SEO.

    So i've been reading a lot recently that not having a https:// domain could be a potential problem for ranking.
    Currently we use a CMS called cratejoy, that only supports SSL Certification on secure areas of the website like member logins & check out, though it comes with a problem, when users land on those secure pages, cratejoy adds ".cratejoy.com" to the end of our website.

    This forced us to use a hosting site called Cloudflare, in order to keep our custom domain throughout our website. It should also allows for all pages of our website to have SSL certificates on them. Though currently this isn't the case for some reason (I believe this is due to our google console currently having our preferred domain as http:// rather than https:// which i haven't got around to changing yet, though could this be the reason?)

    If that is the reason, and i change the preferred domain to a https:// one, i was told that it could affect my websites page speed which is already incredibly low as it is. Measured by PageSpeed Tool (36/100 mobile score, 41/100 desktop)



    So i guess my questions:

    1. Is the reason people don't enter the secure https:// version of my website because google search console currently has http:// versions of my websites (including www. and non www.)?
    If this is the case would introducing a https:// version and making it my preferred version affect my website in a sense of data, traffic, etc.
    As i noticed that with the non www. version of our website, i cannot see data for it in google console. (The www. is the preferred one currently)

    2. Is it worth making my site speed worse by changing the preferred domain to https:// ? as if i set it to my preferred, whenever someone uses that domain it will have to pass that request to Cloudflare.

    Sorry for the long question, but i thought i'd give a bit of back story to make it easier to answer.

    Big thanks to anyone who can help!
    Last edited by Trouchie; May 5th, 2017 at 01:26 PM.
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    Answer to Q1 :
    Setting the preferred domain only tells google to show this version in the url it displays in serp and send people there accordingly. Its only about URL usage. It has got nothing to do with the working of SSL on your site, its a purely onsite thingy and its totally under your (developers' control). You need to set up proper redirects so that people entering non http versions of urls are re-directed to https versions. Keep in mind whether you want www or not or whether the SSL is active on WWW.

    Answer to Q2 :
    SSL does slow down things a bit but that is not a reason to discard SSL. A low page-speed score can be easily fixed by taking certain steps. If your CMS is too complecated to handle that or if you cannot do any customization to it then probably its not worth it. Drop the CMS and move ahead if you want better things. But, I think with certain hacks and updates the same CMS can support most of the onsite SEO or other tech requirements.
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    Yes to https
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    Hey Trouchie.
    I'm not a pro, but I can help you a bit with these questions, because I recently fought with them also. :)
    Your topic is a mess as you said it yourself :), I will try to answer it more simple. ;)

    First, I would recommend switching to https. It probably slow "things" down a bit, but nothing too serious. I didn't see a big change when I switched to https.
    Getting a bit of SEO bust from google for using https (Google officially said that it ranks https domains higher than http ones) will compensate for a bit slower website.

    If you switch to https, add https version of your domain to Google search console immediately. Keep a http version also, with and without www.
    You will see a drop in your Google position, because Google will "see" your domain as a completely new domain because of "s" in your domain now, but your position will "come back" as soon as Google realises that its the same website ;)
    And adding https version in search console is one of the most important things to do in the beginning, because it will help Google realise this. ;)


    And finally, Google search console does not determine will your website open as https or as http.
    For this, you have to add some code to your htaccess file (google it). You have to download your htaccess from your server via ftp to your computer, edit it (add this code) and upload it back to server.

    Google search console is there to let Google know which version (www or non www) you will use/prefer, so he can add more reputation to your chosen version, so that the domain "strength" doesn't get splitted between www and non www version, so that all "strength" goes to choosen version.


    I tried to keep it simple, but I am not sure did I succeed, guess not :)
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    I would always recommend using https. I think it will become a very important factor in the future.
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    Google prefers to rank https:// websites higher than http:// ones. Google ranks website based on mainly load speed and user experience. So, just make sure you have them both in good state
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    Yes, definitely install an SSL certificate - the new update of Google Chrome shows websites as 'not secure' if they do not have an SSL certificate, which is likely to put people off visiting your site.
    Last edited by Test-ok; May 17th, 2017 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Live link

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