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Old July 28th, 2008, 04:07 PM
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To boil everything down, if a freelancer is hired to write for us, he/she owns the copy and controls its use unless we have them sign a agreement saying that we own the copy?


YES - But be sure that the transfer order is valid... if not, after-the-fact you lose.

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The reason I would like to know is that I have run into a situation where I have a writer that wrote 9 articles for us, flaked out for some reason, and took his posts and is refusing payment for them. My boss says "see if you can get a copy of them and then we will post them and I will just send him a check".


You're playing with fire in a gasoline tank... best to drop it... the payment could be used in court as an acknowledgement that you were 100% AWARE the copy wasn't yours... and damages would be yours to pay.

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I believe this person will not play nice and will cause trouble. I am going to advise against it. But it is a lesson learned for our next writer. We want to own the content.

Am I right on this thinking?


Like any contractual agreement the "agreement" isn't in place for those times that are "peachy"... the agreement is there to protect the interests of all parties when things sour.

The copyright transfer order is the same thing... and it serves many functions designed to protect those invoided.

Let's say for example you don't have a transfer in place and a 3rd party infringes...

You do the DMCA route,

They counterclaim,

You attempt to go to court but to do so you must show proof of copyright ownership [your registration certificate number]

Technically you didn't write it so your writer needs to do that

Things go awry here:

Your writer doesn't want the hassle...

You lose!

Your writer now decides they want more money because you want exclusive rights and that was never discussed.

You lose!

You circumvent the writer and put your claim in -- [risky but it could work]

The guy that counterclaimed knows something - because it's risky to counterclaim when you know you didn't write it.

If the writer owns the copy you don't have exclusive rights - means "in court" you falsified evidence - not good!

You lose!

There are no "you win's" here.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 04:25 PM
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So it is not really of who wrote it since that can be viewed as a he said/she said situation, it is really who registers it that owns it. So in my situation, if I could get copies of the posts and register them and of course pay, I can legally keep them and use them (even if it is a little unethical)?

I am glad this debate is happening since it is a mysterious area that people need to know!


The bottomline here is this:

Most employers of writers, most writers, most commissioner of work-for-hire projects, and most writers-for-hire don't understand copyright - they naturally assume they do... and that's where there is an advantage found.

If your boss is hiring writers - the easiest 'clear way' is to hire an employee... the boss has the rightful claim to copyright and should exercise that claim every 3 months [submitting an update of all web work] ... it'll be the best $35 every 3 months he ever spent.

If he is going to continue to do work-for-hire then he MUST HAVE someone internal that manages this - particularly copyright issues...

There is a dark-side to all of this -- when a "writer" borrows copy from another writer... as a commissioner of the project - what then?

Someone needs to be full time on copyright issues... but there is a plus side to that as well... very few people [including IP attorneys] understand the nuances of digital copyright & DMCA... that's an opportunity.
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Thanks Fathom and Googler for all of the information! Alot to think about.....
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