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    Cool Website gets in top 200 then vanish after a few hrs?


    Hi guys,

    the website I am working on is old, it was hit by penguin 2.0, now it does get loads of traffic from long tail keywords but nothing from the main ones. If i change the homepage content then it rankings somewhere around 70 and then after a few hrs it disappears again. It has happened a few times and when I see the homepage in index I know its not gonna last long.

    1. Is the Penguin 2.0 penalty still going on? I have disavowed many directory links now.
    2. Is it because of duplicate content and not actually a penalty?
    3. The homepage and 2 other main pages that target the main keywords dont even show up in index. Even if the site is suffering from duplicate content the homepage should at least be within top 30 as it has a good number links coming to it and the on-page is pretty good with MOZ rank of 94 for on-page elements.
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    You'll have to post the site if you want any kind of specific answer to all these problems.
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    lol man...
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    First, Check google webmaster for To know if the site is penalized
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    Originally Posted by AndrewSkyler
    First, Check google webmaster for To know if the site is penalized
    No penalties in WMT, but I know the site got hit by penguin 2.0 back in 2013. Strange thing is whenever I update anything on the homepage, it starts showing up around position 70 for a few hrs and then vanishes after that...by vanish I mean completely out of search results for our main keyword.
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    Also if I copy the title of the homepage and google that exact thing, site shows up on 180 or sometimes nowhere in results.
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    No one has an answer to this? :O
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    Originally Posted by SEOLadder
    No one has an answer to this? :O
    I don't know what you're expecting but without being able to see the website we're wasting our time trying to answer.
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    could be SERP folding could be a simple Google dance could be a lot of things like Google is still figuring out the true position where your site belongs.

    But as some users told you we can't just give an answer without seeing your website, SEO is not a simple question and answer thing it is very complex.
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    Its doesn't seem like Google dance, both the main pages (homepage and another) don't show up in search at all for the main keyword, however, if I make any changes to the pages then I usually do the re-crawl from webmaster tools for a quick update and the page immediately shows up in search results but lasts only for a few hrs and then vanishes completely again. The site is old..and used to rank top 3 for the main keywords back in 2013 before Penguin 2.0

    Lets say for the sake of it that the on-page SEO is not done properly even then the homepage should at least show up in search results somewhere isnt it? The site has 3.2M links coming to it from 1100 domains (majestic). I know I have disavowed most of the directory links and also some of the most obvious bad ones.

    We do get loads of traffic from long tail keywords but obviously nothing from the main keywords that actually matter. The site was hit by penguin 2.0 in 2013.
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    I could PM the URL to you guys? just dont want to publish that on a public forum.
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    Any (aggressive) link building going on? Pretty difficult to give much insight without knowing the URL.
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    I've seen an instance of this but in Bing rather than Google.

    It started off as an irritation, the page would disappear after a month or so, but after the page was resubmitted it was back ranking as high as #3. I contacted Bing, who were a bit more approachable than Google - they agreed to investigate.

    Unfortunately, the page dropped out of the rankings again an this time never reappeared. They said it had been spam tagged although we couldn't see any sign of spam, and as such there was nothing more we could do. As far as I know the page still doesn't rank but the rest of the site does.
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    Originally Posted by KernelPanic
    I don't know what you're expecting but without being able to see the website we're wasting our time trying to answer.
    Ok here is the URL... goo.gl/9179Bp

    The site was hit by penguin 2.0 in 2013. I just started working on it from May 2017...have built some links and that had no effect whatsoever.
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    Have submitted a disavow file and included many directories in that along with some other obvious bad ones.
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