Search Engine Optimization
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesSearch Engine Optimization
Our weekly Search Engine newsletter covers the constantly evolving world of search engine optimization like no one else. To stay abreast of all the latestest news, reviews, and how-to's, subscribe today!

BuySellLinks.com is a Text Link Advertising Brokerage by the founder of LinkAdage that specializes in high end quality text links and a controlled membership base. To quickly build inventory we are paying webmasters who add quality domains that we can accepted into our inventory. We also offer free installation.

Tired of dealing with shady text link buyers and/or sellers? Try BuySellLinks.

This month's featured article takes a peek at Google Adsense and teaches you everything you need to know to properly maintain your account and get the most bang for your buck.



Apply Now and Read About Offer Details

Read Now!

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old July 27th, 2010, 12:23 PM
Lb1878's Avatar
Lb1878 Lb1878 is offline
Dancin with the devil
SEO Chat Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 2,148 Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Weeks 4 Days 11 h 29 m 25 sec
Reputation Power: 371
Tiny URLs

Curious to know how these tiny URLs help or take away from SEO efforts? I know they make long, ugly URLs look more pretty but does using them in a backlink situation take away from potential link juice? Do they work the same way a 301 redirect works or is it different?

Some of our URLs get quite lengthy and the thought of shrinking them would be nice, although people wouldn't know what they were clicking. If the benefits of using tiny URLs are similar to regular URLs, it may be worth experimenting with.
__________________
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." Chinese Proverb

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old July 27th, 2010, 12:30 PM
seomonkeymanocp's Avatar
seomonkeymanocp seomonkeymanocp is offline
Live and Learn!
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London, England
Posts: 1,720 seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level)seomonkeymanocp User rank is Captain (20000 - 30000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 5 Days 8 h 50 m 17 sec
Reputation Power: 215
Send a message via MSN to seomonkeymanocp Send a message via Skype to seomonkeymanocp
Facebook
Well they do pass some value as they are 301 redirects. but as we all know google is passing less and less value through 301 redirects.

If it was coming from a very nice source i would try to ask that source to change the link to your actual url. Remember you can always use a different anchor text than having the url as the anchor text.

Twitter etc are nofollowed but it is still valuable becasue google does re-crawl pretty much instantly after a tweet about a website.

I wouldnt worry about it. Users can link to you that way if they wish, just keep an eye on where these links are and ask for a normal link if the website in question is reputable.

tbh this would be very low on my list of concerns. I would worry more about how to get more.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 27th, 2010, 12:43 PM
Lb1878's Avatar
Lb1878 Lb1878 is offline
Dancin with the devil
SEO Chat Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 2,148 Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level)Lb1878 User rank is Major (30000 - 40000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Weeks 4 Days 11 h 29 m 25 sec
Reputation Power: 371
Thanks for the response. I'm really not concerned but just started seeing more and more of them around the net. I never really knew their purpose and their affect on SEO so I figured I would ask.

I guess I was looking for a better understanding of how they were valued and why they are used. I now have a better understanding.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old July 27th, 2010, 05:27 PM
Keiros's Avatar
Keiros Keiros is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 465 Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 11 h 51 m 31 sec
Reputation Power: 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by seomonkeymanocp
but as we all know google is passing less and less value through 301 redirects.
.


Less and less value? Really? Well, I've been kept out of that "we all". ;)

Only reference to that loss was a sentence from Matt Cutts (in an article about crawling) saying that "a certain percentage" of PageRank was lost through the redirect. He did not say how much nor did he say that this percentage will increase in the future.

Have you got some data that give an estimation of this loss of value and show a declining trend?
__________________
SEO for the dummies
“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” — Groucho Marx.

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 27th, 2010, 07:24 PM
KernelPanic's Avatar
KernelPanic KernelPanic is offline
SEO Gun Slinger
SEO Chat Expert (3500 - 3999 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,969 KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level)KernelPanic User rank is General 5th Grade (Above 100000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Month 1 Week 5 Days 4 h 42 m 16 sec
Reputation Power: 1310
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiros
Less and less value? Really? Well, I've been kept out of that "we all". ;)

You didn't get the memo?
__________________
SEO Orlando

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 28th, 2010, 06:55 AM
Keiros's Avatar
Keiros Keiros is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 465 Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)Keiros User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 11 h 51 m 31 sec
Reputation Power: 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by KernelPanic
You didn't get the memo?


No, the only well documented article that I read on this subject was this one:

http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/301-redirect-test-how-much-link-juice-are-you-losing/2010/04/09/

And it shows that if Bing and Yaho were not dealing correctly with the redirect, it was not the case with Google, which preserve most (if not all) of the linkjuice and popularity.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesSearch Engine Optimization > Tiny URLs


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

© 2003-2012 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 4 - Follow our Sitemap
 
SEO Chat is sponsored by:
Close this Sponsor Message