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Old April 23rd, 2008, 08:29 AM
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Hey guys, I know there is a list of words called stop words that the search engines tend to not like, whether in the title, description, or even the main body. Our site has an & symbol in the title. does any body know if this is something that causes the search engines spiders to get unsettled, in other words do you think it could harm our rankings. Thanks in advance to any replies. Look forward to seeing what is said.
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 08:56 AM
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we use it all of the time and hold lots of #1s for those terms (with many of the KWs being after the &
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Can you show us a (subtle) example JimT?
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the fast replies all. Now as for an example I will use a fake title for lets say the home page which would read like "discounted widgets & other widgets by widget company"
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Way too many "widgets" in that title. You can no additional benefit from repeating words, but it does reduce the effectiveness of the others.
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Hehe I'd turn that title into "Widget discount"

But it's partly a subjective thing
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Hey guys, I know there is a list of words called stop words that the search engines tend to not like, whether in the title, description, or even the main body. Our site has an & symbol in the title. does any body know if this is something that causes the search engines spiders to get unsettled, in other words do you think it could harm our rankings. Thanks in advance to any replies. Look forward to seeing what is said.


Go for a title that is descriptive and accurate. It will not hurt rankings by having that.
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Way too many "widgets" in that title. You can no additional benefit from repeating words, but it does reduce the effectiveness of the others.


I just used widgets as a catch all so you can insert random keywords.
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You mean widget1 != widget2 != widget3 in that title?
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I just used widgets as a catch all so you can insert random keywords.


I have tested repeated keywords in the title as a low probability event in Google Top 10. Also, my personal preferences I go for a descriptive title. It is so annoying to read repeating keywords especially if there are ways to shorten it. Looks spammy though.
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You mean widget1 != widget2 != widget3 in that title?


Ok it seems the I have confused people with that example title. so here is another title that you can look at:

"Search Engine Marketing & Optimization by company name"

Replace company name with a companies name. :-)
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Ok it seems the I have confused people with that example title. so here is another title that you can look at:

"Search Engine Marketing & Optimization by company name"

Replace company name with a companies name. :-)


Seems to have no problem with your title, what exactly is your problem with that?
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Seems to have no problem with your title, what exactly is your problem with that?


I was hoping there was no problem but have read somewhere some time ago that symbols like & are bad but every one here seems to think it is ok, this is great news. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REPLIES!
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I would make it...

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