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Old October 21st, 2004, 04:53 AM
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LOL. That's rich. The webmaster for that site had their other condolux site dropped from the google index for massive crosslinking.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 06:49 PM
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Ok, I have been researching SEO in great depth. I am planning on hiring an SEO firm for my upcoming online project.

Some of the companies I am looking at include:

...

Does anyone have any specific information on these companies?

...

why are THEY no where to be found for their own keywords? They have horrible rankings compared to what they're offering?


To offer some answers to your questions...

I'm not familiar with any of the companies you mention asides from SEO Guy's posts here - which you can easily read and form your own opinion.

My personal opinion is that it's always easiest and most successful to be able to meet people in person.

I would not worry about their own website, many good seo's are just too busy with client work to worry about our own site. Do however get references from past clients and ask the SEO company for case studies.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 08:14 PM
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It seems everyone is saying and suggesting that some SEOs don’t necessarily compete for top spots for the highly searched SEO keywords. Could someone possibly clue me in on what some of the toughest “keywords” are to be optimized? What types of sites? Because then I will look for these sites in SEO companies client profiles to really determine how good they are at what they do.

Thanks.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 08:54 PM
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LOL. That's rich. The webmaster for that site had their other condolux site dropped from the google index for massive crosslinking.

I think I can shed some light on this. The person that has the post on that site was attacked by Seo Guy for declining to link with them. After declining to link with them and sending their links manager Jason several emails telling them to remove their email address from their list of addresses the BS started to hit the fan. According to what I know Seo Guy created a page slamming this Seo herself and putting it on his website and trying to rank that page within his website for Myrtle Beach real estate. I have to ask myself Why? If you have no client for that area why try to rank for it unless you are just trying to piss someone off and start a war.

This website moved up in the serps to # 20 for myrtle beach real estate and IMHO it was in bad taste because someone wouldnt link to him or didnt agree with Seo Guy. This is child like IMO for someone who is suppose to be so respected to place this type of BS against another Seo because they disagree with eachother.

The offending content has been removed from Seo Guys website but only after those two people talked through email. I have even been sent an email where Seo Guy physically threaten this female seo with bodly harm. To quote Seo Guy in the email " You are only a Plane ride Away Dont F@@@ with me.

I for one have knowledge of Seo Guy and I dont respect him those that do it is only your opinion as my opinion is mine but if you are allowed to state your respect for him on this forum ..shouldnt others be allowed to stated their disrespect for him as well. I would strongly suggest no matter what Seo or Seo company you are looking to employee research them. Check the web ask others in the profession..talk with past and present clients.

Crichey as for the crosslinking of the site you referred to that wasnt it..for some reason on a few of your post pertaining to other websites that is always your response. I see no evidence of that website or any other you have mentioned aas being penalized for crosslinking.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 08:55 PM
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It seems everyone is saying and suggesting that some SEOs don’t necessarily compete for top spots for the highly searched SEO keywords. Could someone possibly clue me in on what some of the toughest “keywords” are to be optimized? What types of sites? Because then I will look for these sites in SEO companies client profiles to really determine how good they are at what they do.

Thanks.
Hi,

I'm happy to change the subject a little.

This is a good post to reply to you did.

Actually I have very very difficult keywords to chase to get top rankings.

If I'm not on the first page then there is really no hope of generating good business for the particular site.

Promotional gifts

Promotional products

Promotional items

plus fundraising (very difficult also)

First 2 sites for these terms have around 160T backlinks in the promotional keywords.

If anyone has any suggestions I'm more than happy to hear them. Sure you can throw huge $ at the site to get it up there but most people don't have $5 k month to blow including me.

If you know an SEO Company that has had excellent results with these keywords I'd be more than happy to investigate.

Message me anytime: martina_mcpherson@yahoo.com (underscore in between the name) if you feel you have the answer and can help using legitimate methods of SEO and at a reasonable price.

Thanks.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 08:56 PM
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It seems everyone is saying and suggesting that some SEOs don’t necessarily compete for top spots for the highly searched SEO keywords. Could someone possibly clue me in on what some of the toughest “keywords” are to be optimized? What types of sites? Because then I will look for these sites in SEO companies client profiles to really determine how good they are at what they do.

Thanks.

I would suggest researching any company you are looking to hire..dont accept the comments you get on here as total truth whether they are good or bad.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 09:31 PM
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I didn't write the article in that link I gave: For christ sake read the friggin post properly.

u wankers

No, you didn't write it. And you had no business posting the link, either. The page has been removed and there is nothing left of it but the Google cache. SEO-Guy and I have had our differences and they have been resolved for the time being. The page is removed, and some pages he had up in a similar vein have also been removed. If everyone would drop it and stay out of other people's business, it would be gone in a day or two.

And as to whoever posted that about Condolux being dropped from Google, you're full of BS. It was dropped from Yahoo for a period of about 2 months because of a few unrelated links...NOT excessive cross-linking. We were re-submitted promptly when the links were removed...which were from back in the days when we didn't know any better. And even that was probably from a jealous competitor complaining to them. Condolux is alive and well, thank you, and I have nothing to say about SEO-Guy one way or another. Everyone has a different way of doing their job, and if people mind their own business and leave me alone, I do the same. That was a stupid, childish argument anyway...but most importantly, it was between us. I'm just sorry it has to be dragged into a forum like this to start a bunch of jackals taking bites out of everyone else.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 09:38 PM
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LOL. That's rich. The webmaster for that site had their other condolux site dropped from the google index for massive crosslinking.

Oh, it's just you. Diann is your number one competitor and a close friend of mine. I should have known.

Get your facts straight, chum.

I have no bone to pick with you. But you've got a large enemy out there that you don't even know about. Has nothing to do with me, either. Diann could care less and is the least of your worries.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 11:28 PM
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Geez, where the heck are the mods? This thread should of been locked a long time ago...
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Old October 21st, 2004, 11:30 PM
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Numerous posts have been deleted "by me".

Please do not forget this is a learning environment.

It is NOT a complaints forum for SEO clients

It is NOT a place to publicly "get even" with a SEO.

It is NOT a place to share private communications.

It is NOT a place to spin accusations and to post a variety of information from elsewhere that you "ARE NOT" the author.

You CANNOT use SEOChat as a platform for personal or professional agendas

If you "personally" have been victimized by an SEO seek legal advice.

..and you truly need to listen to this one...

Posting here most often weakens your case and the first thing any lawyer will tell you "SAY NOTHING" and the second thing "DO NOTHING"!

Your posts have been deleted for one reason: "out of context".

Your opening dialogue (and you both know who I mean) was "NOT CREDIBLE".

As such: unless you start being credible - you will not get any resolve.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 12:05 AM
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Don't get my thread locked.... lol.

I'm just here for friendly SEO advice.

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Old October 22nd, 2004, 02:39 AM
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Numerous posts have been deleted "by me".

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Fathom, would you please remove the posts that have the cache of that page of mine?
It shouldn't be on here and is just going to cause more hard feelings. I would prefer to be left out of this thread entirely if at all possible.

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I actually thought this was a great starting point for a thread and I'd love it if we could return to that. I've only used the services of 2 SEOs from this board and been very happy with both of them. DazzlinDonna & (coincidentally?) Fathom have been been extremely helpful and great resources for a particular project of mine.

As for credible SEO companies, I have heard good things about the directory at www.seoconsultants.com - anybody have any input on the directory or the companies listed with them... I haven't heard any news about them in a long time (which, in the SEO world, means 3 months). Strangely, I noticed that SEOChat is missing from their forum list... very weird?

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Fathom, would you please remove the posts that have the cache of that page of mine?
It shouldn't be on here and is just going to cause more hard feelings. I would prefer to be left out of this thread entirely if at all possible.

Jan


Done!

Also Jan, my mother read this to me a long time ago... it seems fitting since you seem to be the sensible one. ;)

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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;


Ever here of this?

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