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    SEO Skepticism and unethical SEO-Specialists


    Greetings Everyone.

    We are a company, trying to enter North American market of SEO serivices. Our primary focus is to help western brands to expand to Ukraine, Russia and CIS. Even this company of ours is new, but it was found by very experienced SEO specialists that delivered outstanding results for major local brands (chain stores, biggest domain name registrars and ISPs in CIS etc.). Having tons of experience and feeling pretty confident, we find it extremely complicated to get the new clients in North America. Seems like everyone already had pretty bad experience with those who promised to deliver results for $200 in a highly competitive field.

    I was merely curious, whether many of you guys encounter the same problem or its just we who are being very lucky.

    Cheers.
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    Originally Posted by IT_Guild
    Having tons of experience and feeling pretty confident, we find it extremely complicated to get the new clients in North America. Seems like everyone already had pretty bad experience with those who promised to deliver results for $200 in a highly competitive field.
    If you're targeting the companies that are wanting to go international with their product/brand, then you need to price accordingly, with these kinds of places it isn't about the price, it's about what you can do and how much of a return they could get. With SEO, similar to everything else, you get what you pay for, so make sure that you're priced properly for your services.

    To overcome the hurdle of people dealing with a $200 SEO, I always use an analogy, to try and explain this to a potential customer, by comparing a cheap car vs a luxury car, which are you going to get more from.


    Hopefully this answers your question, if not I apologise for going off on a tangent.
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    It's doable but not easy for a new company.... Naturally, potential client look at reputation, Google your name and past records. If you have real experts on board, make sure you make their names and achievement visible on the site. Show your experience.

    SEO services are still in high demand in the US: It just takes time to figure things out and get your brand name established
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    This looks like an interesting discussion! To increase its visibility I've moved it out of our New User Q&A section and into "Search Engine Optimization."

    IT_Guild, you should be able to continue posting in this thread with no problems. Sometimes our forum software can be a pain, though - if you have any difficulty responding to or making posts, please email me at markr@imninjas.com and I'll help asap.

    Also welcome to SEO Chat!
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    Very experienced SEO specialists that charge $200 for SEO sounds like BlackhatWorld stuff.

    A very wise man added a line to his signature.

    "Free advice isn't worth much. Cheap advice is worth even less." EGOL
    That is precisely the value you get from a $200 SEO service.

    You are better to offer free SEO and monetize the pages you produce.
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    Very experienced SEO specialists that charge $200 for SEO sounds like BlackhatWorld stuff.
    I am not sure if I am reading this correctly but IT_Guild never claimed that was the price of their service... I thought what he was saying was that clients they came across had been burned by those $200-service providers...
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    Originally Posted by Ann Smarty
    I am not sure if I am reading this correctly but IT_Guild never claimed that was the price of their service... I thought what he was saying was that clients they came across had been burned by those $200-service providers...
    I apologize, I misread the post.

    In my experience, here at SEOChat (or rather from SEOChat) I get 5-10 projects forward to me per week via skype/email or PMs. I usually solicit 2 or 3 from SEOChat threads and I get 1 or 2 from WebmasterWorld & 1 or 2 from Google Groups each month.

    Although, quality control is always a problem. Most projects that are searching for a provider have previous attempts to do SEO whether that was DIYSEO, or possibly cheap BLACKHAT attempts.
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    Thanks to everyone for the input, I really appreciate that.

    We indeed do not charge $200 for SEO (although this would be a price of an in-depth audit for a big website).

    Did someone say black hat? Well, technically, linkbuilding is not really white hat, so its a rather philosophical question of what is black and what is white Besides, $200 is a relatively small amount for blackhat as well. I will not revela any secrets by saying that black hat is the best option for some short-lived projects of some industries.

    Once again thank you everyone for joining the discussion and giving a good advice

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