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Old January 15th, 2004, 03:00 AM
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I find it really hard to rank high for all keyphrases that i want and i really dont want to change that much on my homepage so im thinking of creating some "doorway-pages" that targeting my keyphrases but with real content on. But i dont want that the visitors should see those pages and instead redirect to my real homepage.

Any suggestiones how to bet do this? I have seen other doing this with cloaking but do i really have to use cloaking. Cant i just use a redirect that takes my visitors directly to my main site? or dont the search-engines like that? and if i don that what kind of redirect do you recomend?

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Old January 15th, 2004, 06:41 AM
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Re: Redirects

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I find it really hard to rank high for all keyphrases that i want and i really dont want to change that much on my homepage so im thinking of creating some "doorway-pages" that targeting my keyphrases but with real content on. But i dont want that the visitors should see those pages and instead redirect to my real homepage.

Any suggestiones how to bet do this? I have seen other doing this with cloaking but do i really have to use cloaking. Cant i just use a redirect that takes my visitors directly to my main site? or dont the search-engines like that? and if i don that what kind of redirect do you recomend?

Thanks!


The only ethical to do is to hire a copywriter and serve the searchengine spiders and your human visitors new content that taget your keywords and keyphrases.

If you really want to be a bad boy, and trick the engines (and humans) then you should redirect the humans to a page that are atleast somewhat relevant for the keyword in question.
You could do the redirect in a number of ways.

1. META REFRESH - You would not want to do this this is pretty silly and has a 100% probability be detected by the spiders.
This could break your backbutton.

2. JAVA SCRIPT - Use a external javascript to redirect the humans based on useragent to to real content. This will could your backbutton.

The two methods above are really bad and belong in the ages where people wrote meta keywordtags, and had 70 title elements in the head element.

3. LET THE SERVER DO THE JOB. Just let the server silently serve different content to spiders. You would need to modify your .htaccess there are many good tutorial for this on the web.
This is the overall best, but most technical method.

4. Depending on your platform you could use php, jsp, asp etc. to check for useragent and / or ip-addresses and just serve a different content to the spiders. There are about a million tutorials for this on the web.

WARNING! All attempts to fool users and searchengines are bad, and will make the SERPS worse. It could also lead to high shortterm profits for you and make your competition mad, you must be prepared to forfit your domain when it gets the Google death penalty (ofcourse this never happen)

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Old January 15th, 2004, 07:54 AM
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Yes i know its not right but its really difficult to fit all keywords i want on my page and i have to change the layout completely to fit in all those words on the real site.

And of course i would redirect it to a page with similar content to what they searched for. for example im ranking high on for example "hire computers" but i also want to be high on "rent, lease, buy, renting, hiring, buying etc" and i find it really hard to do that without making several pages with focus on one or three keywords. And it wont be doorway pages with just junk.....

Would an ASP redirect work?

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Old January 15th, 2004, 10:36 AM
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ASP redirect will be surely detected by the spiders. It should be the worst of all redirect tricks.

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Old January 15th, 2004, 10:53 AM
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Yes i know its not right but its really difficult to fit all keywords i want on my page and i have to change the layout completely to fit in all those words on the real site.

And of course i would redirect it to a page with similar content to what they searched for. for example im ranking high on for example "hire computers" but i also want to be high on "rent, lease, buy, renting, hiring, buying etc" and i find it really hard to do that without making several pages with focus on one or three keywords. And it wont be doorway pages with just junk.....

Would an ASP redirect work?


You might want to read this article:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/962

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