Search Engine Optimization
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesSearch Engine Optimization
View Poll Results: Do Signature Links, Guestbook Comments or Blogger Comments Help SEO?
Yes 9 75.00%
No 3 25.00%
I don't know what these are. 0 0%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll


Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old March 21st, 2005, 03:54 PM
toddieg's Avatar
toddieg toddieg is offline
Permanently Banned
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,936 toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 2 Days 6 h 30 m 6 sec
Reputation Power: 12
Poll: Do Signature, Blogger Comments, and Guestbooks Help?

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to see what everyone thought about putting up links in signatures, guest books, and blogger comments (not the actual blog) as far as SEO goes.

Should we do it, or is it a waste of time?

Thanks.
__________________
It's been fun everyone... Time to leave for good. See this for more details.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 21st, 2005, 04:48 PM
randfish's Avatar
randfish randfish is offline
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,874 randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)randfish User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 6 Days 12 h 54 m 32 sec
Reputation Power: 11
A famous spammer once told me - "50,000 bloggers can't all be wrong."

One of the search technology employees for one of the big 4 SEs also once said - "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

Do they help? They can.

Would I use them? No, I would not.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 21st, 2005, 04:54 PM
toddieg's Avatar
toddieg toddieg is offline
Permanently Banned
SEO Chat Intermediate (1500 - 1999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,936 toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)toddieg User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Weeks 2 Days 6 h 30 m 6 sec
Reputation Power: 12
i do know that MSN spiders almost all of the forums, and the signature links do carry weight. some of my sites have been found entirely by forum sigs....

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 21st, 2005, 04:56 PM
Wit's Avatar
Wit Wit is offline
http://tinyurl.com/cz56g
SEO Chat God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: D0RDRECHT NL
Posts: 6,065 Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Months 6 Days 10 h 52 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 18
I must admit I dropped a link at the occasional guestbook. All related guestbooks of course, most put up by friendly competitor/collegue webmasters. Those links will show up and my guess is that the close relation compensates for the nigh-insignificance of the guestbook link

What's more: I get some traffic from that. Got some today. I guess it helps that I only post at clean guestbooks, and not at abandoned/spammy/cr@pbooks. And they don't make up 80% of my links either.

Don't rely solely on this stuff ever. But it can be a bonus and worth the time if you spend under 2 minutes

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 21st, 2005, 05:02 PM
jrath1 jrath1 is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 179 jrath1 User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 4 h 41 m 13 sec
Reputation Power: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wit
I must admit I dropped a link at the occasional guestbook. All related guestbooks of course, most put up by friendly competitor/collegue webmasters. Those links will show up and my guess is that the close relation compensates for the nigh-insignificance of the guestbook link

What's more: I get some traffic from that. Got some today. I guess it helps that I only post at clean guestbooks, and not at abandoned/spammy/cr@pbooks. And they don't make up 80% of my links either.

Don't rely solely on this stuff ever. But it can be a bonus and worth the time if you spend under 2 minutes


Bottom line is that it works. Type Miserable Failure in google. How do you think they got that to work. Doesn't have to be related at all.
__________________
weather

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 21st, 2005, 05:06 PM
Wit's Avatar
Wit Wit is offline
http://tinyurl.com/cz56g
SEO Chat God 2nd Plane (6000 - 6499 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: D0RDRECHT NL
Posts: 6,065 Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)Wit User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Months 6 Days 10 h 52 m 26 sec
Reputation Power: 18
True - you can get anywhere with sheer link power. Alas I don't have the time nor the money for that...

The better you play it, the better the effect, I'm sure.

Then again. In google's eyes every SEOed site in the world might be related to "miserable failure" in a way Kidding of course.

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 21st, 2005, 09:59 PM
Bernard's Avatar
Bernard Bernard is offline
Supercalifragilistic
SEO Chat Beginner (1000 - 1499 posts)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Friendswood, TX
Posts: 1,020 Bernard User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Bernard User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Bernard User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)Bernard User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 15 h 52 m 56 sec
Reputation Power: 8
Yes, as long as the links are spiderable, they work. Webmasters are wising up to SEOs who spam those scripts with automated programs, so more and more forum, guestbook and blog owners are taking steps to make the links worthless for SEO.

It's not a cost effective strategy for a manual effort. It is a rude strategy for an automated effort.
__________________
Have a thumb? Check out my gardening forum.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 22nd, 2005, 09:28 AM
mick.sawyer mick.sawyer is offline
I love SEO Chat.
SEO Chat Regular (2000 - 2499 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: I love SEO Chat.
Posts: 2,426 mick.sawyer User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)mick.sawyer User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)mick.sawyer User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)mick.sawyer User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)mick.sawyer User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 3 Weeks 1 Day 16 h 50 m 58 sec
Warnings Level: 10
Number of bans: 1
Reputation Power: 0
I think they count and i use it.

If you look at your site as a living plant you need roots to feed it with traffic as a plant needs roots to feed it with water.
A plant has thick roots (high pr solid links)
A plant also has little roots (comment spam and forums sigs)

All these roots help the plant grow big and strong.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 22nd, 2005, 09:56 AM
IrishWonder IrishWonder is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 132 IrishWonder User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)IrishWonder User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 22 h 44 m 47 sec
Reputation Power: 4
Send a message via ICQ to IrishWonder
A link is a link is a link, that's for sure. Now, the quality of these links can differ. Can't say anything about signatures though probably they do work pretty well when set up correctly, but once a link to a site I was optimizing was put (not even by me but just by somebody who found it and wrote an entry about it) on a forum with a topic exactly the same as that site - as a result, about 1/3 of the traffic to my site was coming from just that one little link. Did it give my site much PR? - I don't think so, but the traffic was there. Wouldn't call it SEO though but rather online marketing.

Blogger comments - since blogs are spidered heavily any link found in a blog is even better in theory, but again I would say it's all in the content relevance.

I would never do it automatically though, when something in SEO is overdone it can lead to an opposite effect. A few links here and there can be easily added manually, and are safer. Besides think of this undesirable side effect: if you run some software that just finds any forum/blog/guestbook out there and posts something automatically it is sure to be sheer spam, hence you will only be able to do it once or twice before getting banned/deleted.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 22nd, 2005, 12:02 PM
IrishWonder IrishWonder is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 132 IrishWonder User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)IrishWonder User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Day 22 h 44 m 47 sec
Reputation Power: 4
Send a message via ICQ to IrishWonder
Just came across a forum where urls are displayed using not the normal <a> tags but [url] tags... Wonder if those get spidered as links as well as regular ones?

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsSearch Engine StrategiesSearch Engine Optimization > Poll: Do Signature, Blogger Comments, and Guestbooks Help?


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump



 Free IT White Papers!
 
How to Present Effectively Online
This white paper offers practical and actionable advice on the key steps that any presenter should consider as they plan and execute a Webinar or online meeting.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Open Source Security Myths
Open Source Software (OSS) is computer software whose source code is available to the general public with relaxed or non-existent intellectual property restrictions (or arrangement such as the public domain), and is usually developed with the input of many contributors.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Power and Cooling Capacity Management for Data Centers
This paper describes the principles for achieving power and cooling capacity management.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Scalable, Fault-Tolerant NAS for Oracle - The Next Generation
For several years NAS has been evolving as a storage alternative for Oracle databases, and for good reason: NAS is quite often the simplest, most cost-effective storage approach for Oracle. Learn about the benefits that HP's approach to scalable NAS brings to Oracle environments in this comprehensive white paper.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Understanding Web Application Security Challenges
This white paper discusses many common threats and preventive measures for Web application security, and explains what you can do to help protect your organization.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support |