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Serving up a different page to search engine bots and crawler than what the browser agent gets.
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I am building a phpbb bulletin board and want to optimize for the almighty Google on high. Hell, I would be happy if Google would bless me with a listing on page 500.

Could you elaborate on the vBulliten issue.


Session IDs are available in most websites that require a user to 'login'.

As automated tools [search engine bots] can't action a "login" they can't read anything that is only available to a "logged in person"... which prevents your website in near totality from being crawled and indexed.

This is the case for all forums [such as phpBB & vBulliten] that do not allow "guest posts".

Just consider the "bot" as a guest and modify your forum so that guests have "read" capabilities.
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Old April 11th, 2005, 01:23 AM
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Session IDs are available in most websites that require a user to 'login'.

As automated tools [search engine bots] can't action a "login" they can't read anything that is only available to a "logged in person"... which prevents your website in near totality from being crawled and indexed.

This is the case for all forums [such as phpBB & vBulliten] that do not allow "guest posts".

Just consider the "bot" as a guest and modify your forum so that guests have "read" capabilities.


Makes sense. That is why the forums are made in such a way so that Guests could at least read...but for posting, a guest needs to become a member. This way, Googlebot (or any other spider for the matter) will get to read (i.e. index) the discussion that went through in the forum. It helps in site promotion (provided the forum discussed on relevant topic).

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Old April 11th, 2005, 03:18 AM
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Thanks a lot for the useful tips for SEO.
I have built a website(http://www.mad4f1.com), I have taken care of all the points that you have mentioned except for the
point 2 and 3 (adding robot tags), the site is already live for more than one month, but still it has not appreared on the search engines
properly.

Can you sggest some thing.

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After posting this several times I thought to post this as topic so that everyone can see it and benefit.

I welcome some more additions to enlarge this MUST HAVE TIPS, so that the new comers to SEO arena can get better results.

Here is my standard suggestions that might help:

Optional but very important:

A - Own your-domain-name-dot-com
B - Host your site on a reliable server

1 - Shorten the title to 55 chars
2 - Add the robots tag
3 - Place the robots.txt in your root on your server
4 - Get rid of the js in the code and put it in an external file
5 - Use css instead of color, size and font tags
5 - Change the link buttons or js links in to text links
6 - Make sure to have a site map page
7 - Make sure you have 404 page
8 - At the bottom of each page use menus as text links
9 - Make sure your page code is not bigger than 100 K
10 - Submit your site to ODP and Yahoo Dir, make sure to select the right cat
11 - Pay special attention to your content
12 - Try to get as much as relevant links you can
13 - Read each search engines guide lines and follow them strictly
14 - Don't spam
15 - Don't use doorway pages
16 - Don't cloak
17 - Always come and ask for advice on this board
18 - And pray hard that the big G appreciates all your efforts

This will help as long as you follow each rule here ;)
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Dear Tukesh,

Congratulations for doing a wonderful site. It looks great...rich in content. I am assuming you have done the submission etc. & are now waiting to see your website name surface up on search result pages. I think it is just a matter of time before that happens.
You have placed Google Ad words on your site & that is displaying relevant content i.e. Google is reading your page properly. So, no reason to worry. Have patience...your site should appear in search engines..in no time.

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PS: BTW...you are atlaest in Yahoo for sure.
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Question Some Issues
BTW,
On 2nd look...I didn't understand the logic for your robots.txt.
It states:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

Why would you disallow the root?
I will rather put it this way:

User-agent: *
Disallow:

Now, coming to the tech matters:
  • Did you check server logs & see whether your site has been indexed by spiders or not? If yes, which were the spiders? If no..please re-submit (if you previously submitted about 30 days back).
  • Also...check all the "agents"
  • What are the referrer entries that you are getting for your site? Check that..it will help.
Send the details...perhaps we can help more.RegardsWC
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Wit agrees: Disallow: with nothing following it means you "allow" the bots access. add the "/" and you block
your complete site!
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Disallow: /


hmmm... Disallow "all search engines from every part of your website" - is what this means!
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Old April 13th, 2005, 04:37 AM
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hmmm... Disallow "all search engines from every part of your website" - is what this means!


That is what scared me. I am sure Tukesh did that unknowingly...sooner you remove, better for you Tukesh.

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Old April 13th, 2005, 12:56 PM
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Thanks a lot for your feedback...I really appreciate that....
I am wondering...how did robot.txt file came to by site, I have never put that file..and I dont see such file in the root folder also....
can you tell me...how did you find that file in my site and how can I modify that.

Thanks again,
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That is what scared me. I am sure Tukesh did that unknowingly...sooner you remove, better for you Tukesh.

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Old April 13th, 2005, 01:20 PM
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Hmnn.....this is fishy. When I replied the 2nd time, it was based on my findings by checking:
http://www.mad4f1.com/robots.txt

Now...as I try accessing the link, I get a 404 error. If you are not aware of this...did your developer/seo-guy did so? I hope no one else is controlling your site, right?

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Old April 13th, 2005, 01:32 PM
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Thats very surprising...except myself nobody has the access to the site...

so what do you think..should I put a robots.txt file in my website....if yes where do i need to put that file...

Thank for your time,
Tukesh...

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Hmnn.....this is fishy. When I replied the 2nd time, it was based on my findings by checking:
http://www.mad4f1.com/robots.txt

Now...as I try accessing the link, I get a 404 error. If you are not aware of this...did your developer/seo-guy did so? I hope no one else is controlling your site, right?

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Old April 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM
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Thats very surprising...except myself nobody has the access to the site...

so what do you think..should I put a robots.txt file in my website....if yes where do i need to put that file...

Thank for your time,
Tukesh...


Unless you want to specifically stop the spiders from indexing any particular directory, you can safely do without any robots.txt. If you at all want to use robots.txt, it should ideally go to the root of the web folder i.e. it should be found at "http://www.mad4f1.com/robots.txt"

Hope this helps.

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Old April 14th, 2005, 06:42 AM
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Thanks again...

To be on safer side, I have just added robots.txt in my website,
http://www.mad4f1.com/robots.txt

Few more thi