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Hello,

I copied my competitor www.hdn.com and discovered they were using not only a longer title but a double title. This may seem unethical but they rank number 2 on Google for "Hotel Discounts" with a PR of 6/10.

Well HotelKingdom (The site I work for) has a PR of 6/10 also and we rank number 29 for the same phrase. I use to rank 54 las month. Since I updated my title to match that of my competitor I have moved up 25 places on Google.

I was sitting at 54 for many months trying to follow the rules and I got tired of watching my competition blow me away. Well now I am catching up!

interesting...

Let's be perfectly clear - "you did not change anything but add another title to the page (which already has a title) --no other changes what-so-ever for the past few months.

Seem's strange that you did not go to number 2 or at least 3 like them.

Obvious their strategy is a little more robust than simply added a second Meta Title.

No changes were made other than the title tags. I understand that there are more off page factors that are influencing my competitors ranking than just the title. However the title change alone has moved me up. Also I need to mention that my current position has remained at 28-29 for the last 40 days. Meaning that is has gone through a complete Google Dance and remained in the same place.

I am not saying this is a big discovery, it is just interesting and I am not sure why it made an impact. The one thing I did notice is that my Competitor is using ";,:" characters in thier title. Not sure what these do for them.

";,:" these add nothing nor hinded anything either - they are simply ignored.

So it must have been the content of title. I have increased my Title's prominence, weight and frequency to match that of my comp. I am assuming that this made the improvements not the Characters. I will move all JavaScript to a .js file and see if that improves anything.

Also I will try to match all my competitors numbers for prominence, weight and freq. for all sections of the page.

Thanks for your help Fathom.

Uhm...ya! Your JS is huge! Get it the heck out of there.

i hv just started http://www.smartoffice.org

will u tell me when it will come in google

Fathom,

Once again you are "fathomacious"....great detail..

Simple-biz,

Nice listing...and I would add that the offpage factors are going to get you more attention then some of your onpage factors ever could with Google... (always think deepbot first, once you have created the appropriate relationship with deepbot, then you will be taking out freshbot and she is something to behold)...

If you carefully coordinate your offpage strategies with your onpage content the dividends, well quite frankly, are enormous..

Add as much content as possible, page wise. 1,000 files listed in Google will get you a lot more visitors than 100 files listed will.

If you can't get files listed that arn't .html, turn the file name into .html. SSI is a easy way to do it if you can't do mod-rewrite. And yes, dumping the session ID is a great trick. My vBulletin boards had the Google Death Penalty for two years, it had less than 10 listings, I got rid of the session ID in January, and now there are 8,420 listings. That has added about 2,000 visitors a day.

I used a two title tags to get to #3 for internet gambling....... Its the spammiest thing Ive ever done but if ya run a search on Google there I am - still #3 - been #1 thru #5 for a year or so....

www.free-internet-gambling.com

By the way - yes - I know the code is butt ugly. It was one of my first real earners and Ive loved that SE position so much I couldnt bring myself to change anything for a year

By the way - I wasnt in the top 100 then I added the other title tag and viola - #1 - Pretty much stayed within 1-5 ever since.

I don't see the double title, is it still there? Thanks

It's funny how you can ask the same question to "experts" and get a totally different response. Here are my total opposite results to SOME of what simple-biz and fathom have said....

I have MANY web sites PR5 at the top #1, or #2 of Google for their primary keyword.

Those sites have JS, no title tags in the links, no robot.txt (I don't even know the HTML for it), no css - I use font and color, they are not in the OPD or DMOZ, some have the domain name in the title.

So go figure???

but the rest I do concurr with most of what they have said.

Gail -- there are many many sites at number #1 in Google that have no idea what SEO is, a Meta anything, CSS, or DMOZ, nor do they care that they are #1.

You need not even look to be ranked well, on many different search terms. As Google indicates "design a site for visitors and Google will take care of the ranking".

In saying that -- the competitiveness of the search terms plays a big part in all of this. Therefore on more competitive terms without the referenced "suggested" considerations you tend not to be able to rank well.

To date -- the most difficult term to rank on (myself) competes with 16 million others... the top is very, very competitive - thus the suggestions.

Hi,

ops: Where do I find one of these robots from?

I dont have a robots.txt file on my server.. any ideas?

Darren