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Old April 7th, 2003, 03:34 AM
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Max page title??
A crass way to look at SEO is to just keeping bunging into more keywords to the page title where the words still appear on the page.....

Anyone got any thoughts about the maximum size of the page title?

Do words at the end of the title count the same as words at the beginning of the title?
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Old April 7th, 2003, 03:40 AM
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This isn't 200% sure but, the rules for titles are generally,

  • No more than 7 words
    No more than 60 charaters
    Keywords closer to the front the better
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Old April 7th, 2003, 06:30 AM
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Ok

I have a website that use way more than that

http://www.managed-file-transfer.co.uk

It use to have a few keywords but then I just ramped them up big style, I have had a lot more traffic as a result and not got banned....

Any explanations??
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Old April 7th, 2003, 07:17 AM
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This isn't 200% sure but, the rules for titles are generally,

  • No more than 7 words
    No more than 60 charaters
    Keywords closer to the front the better


I think thats the correct size, most of SE cuts titles which are to long
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Old April 7th, 2003, 07:50 AM
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Tank,

I also use my 60 Characters limit. I think the site you pointed us to has too long a title tag!

As pointer out, Google truncates tags that are too long, which in my opinion looks bad on the serps!
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but does google use it in ranking? i know it cuts it off when it displays the results, but does google use it?
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but does google use it in ranking? i know it cuts it off when it displays the results, but does google use it?



Google dontīt cut only visualy, but also real
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but does google use it in ranking? i know it cuts it off when it displays the results, but does google use it?


Nope ...
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:Z30Kjo4MvLMC:www.managed-file-transfer.co.uk/+cyberfusion+BS7799&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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I cannot get away from the fact that I have seen an increase in stats from longer page titles and that the words in the title are more reguarly found..... of course the referrals come from google
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Are you sure that the words are not also in the normal text? My example above shows that Google doesn't take into account the last word in your title.

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Humm I guess that is what we must be seeing..... this is probably because the words are so uncommon that they picked up in text rather than in title tags.

Solution = more pages
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I believe there is a keyword density issue in title tags as well. The more words the less density each word will have. I'm quite sure this is taken into account. I mainly see top 10 results having 6 words or less in their titles. I also make sure I limit to 7 words in a titel abd for competitive terms will go down to 2 or 3.
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I believe there is a keyword density issue in title tags as well. The more words the less density each word will have. I'm quite sure this is taken into account. I mainly see top 10 results having 6 words or less in their titles. I also make sure I limit to 7 words in a titel abd for competitive terms will go down to 2 or 3.


Yes i see often the same Thing less Words in Title Tag will give every Word a bigger dimension.

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Re: Max page title??
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A crass way to look at SEO is to just keeping bunging into more keywords to the page title where the words still appear on the page.....

Anyone got any thoughts about the maximum size of the page title?

Do words at the end of the title count the same as words at the beginning of the title?

My rule of thumb is that if IE truncates it, it is too long.
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