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Old January 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM
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Is google indexing dynamic pages now???

For a long time I believed that Search Engines, specially Google, couldn't read URLs past certain punctuation (eg ?, &, =) and spaces.
So, to make SE friendly site we always avoided having them on the URLs.
I am now on this project where there is a third party company developing the website. The site is mainly dynamic and has punctuation and what I guess is worse, spaces on the URLs.
I am in charge of the project and I was requesting them to make some changes to the code and also use mod-rewrite to substitute punctuation and spaces by dashes.
But I was doing some searches in google and actually I found some pages indexed that had punctuation and eben 1 page that had a space on the URL (%20)
http://www.pricepoint.com/thumb.htm...=New%20Arrivals

I was wondering is google crawling dynamic pages now?
Even completely non SE friendly pages with spaces?

Or was that one just an exception and probably google would index A LOT more pages of the site if I got rid of punctuation and spaces???

What do you say???

Thanks a lot for the input

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Old January 14th, 2004, 04:01 AM
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Re: Is google indexing dynamic pages now???

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For a long time I believed that Search Engines, specially Google, couldn't read URLs past certain punctuation (eg ?, &, =) and spaces.
So, to make SE friendly site we always avoided having them on the URLs.
I am now on this project where there is a third party company developing the website. The site is mainly dynamic and has punctuation and what I guess is worse, spaces on the URLs.
I am in charge of the project and I was requesting them to make some changes to the code and also use mod-rewrite to substitute punctuation and spaces by dashes.
But I was doing some searches in google and actually I found some pages indexed that had punctuation and eben 1 page that had a space on the URL (%20)
http://www.pricepoint.com/thumb.htm...=New%20Arrivals

I was wondering is google crawling dynamic pages now?
Even completely non SE friendly pages with spaces?

Or was that one just an exception and probably google would index A LOT more pages of the site if I got rid of punctuation and spaces???

What do you say???

Thanks a lot for the input


Google will crawl just about anything that doesn't look like a spidertrap. A URL like this one would be ok:

http://www.mysite.tld/guestbook/ guestbook.asp?PagePosition=10&Temp=43

How eer this will get you in trouble:

http://www.mysite.tld/guestbook/ guestbook.asp?PagePosition=10465465421648547454

since it might look like a session id:


However things usally go so much easier with static looking URLs.

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Old January 14th, 2004, 12:19 PM
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That's the the main point I am trying to find out.
Does it really go easier with static looking URLs?

Will google read full URLs even if they have a space in it?

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Old January 14th, 2004, 12:24 PM
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yes

up to a certain length - yes
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Old January 14th, 2004, 12:26 PM
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what length?

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Old January 15th, 2004, 02:00 PM
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I won't be able to get rid of all spaces. There are spaces on dept names and product names.
I can't replace the spaces by dashes "-" in those cases. The names come from the database, if I put dashes in there, the product names will be displayed with the dashes on the site.
So Product Name XYX will be displayed
Product-Name-XYZ...

Any ideas of how to work around that?

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Old July 26th, 2004, 04:13 AM
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but i have page in asp which is like this
www.xxx.com/xxx.asp but this too is also not indexed by google

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Old July 26th, 2004, 07:53 AM
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but i have page in asp which is like this
www.xxx.com/xxx.asp but this too is also not indexed by google



That is totally dependent on your site's value in google..

and about having static pages.. yes that is too for google.. but google stores every thing.. i have also seen pages with SID , pages with too long URL .. but all those were having PR6-8 so higher PR, little worry about indexing.
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Old July 27th, 2004, 12:36 AM
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It aint rocket surgery . . . .

It is unclear how many times this simple point needs to be made:

If you can see it in your browser, Google can, and will, see it.

If you reflect on what a "dynamic" page is, you will realize that it is a kindness on Google's part not to try to hit such pages at the same rate they hit static pages--else host server loads could go through the roof. So G is literally a little slower at getting dynamic pages, for those pages' owners' sakes.

That is why God created the .htaccess file.

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Old July 27th, 2004, 11:14 AM
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That is why God created the .htaccess file.

So does that mean if you have the:
http://www.mysite.tld/guestbook/ guestbook.asp?PagePosition=10465465421648547454
URL and you redirect it to

http://www.mysite.tld/guestbook/ guestbook/page3.html

it wouldn't matter if there as a session id associated?

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