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    Exclamation Googlebot reading JavaScript files


    After having observed transfer logs for our major sites over the last couple of days, it has become apparent that google has been running a test bot that has specifically been targeting javascript files. Much has already been said already about google's ability to see through javascript links (i.e. people using javascript to redirect the browser rather that sharing pagerank with hyperlinks).

    Maybe it's time to discuss what other pieces of information google will gleam from our javascript. In the future will we be getting penalised for un-solicited pop-up windows (ads?)

    Can anybody else think of things we'll get penalised for?
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    you will not be penalized for having popups...that is not googles job to determine.

    odds are that if you spawn lots of popups few people will want to link to you and thus you will not rank as well...the system is self regulating outside of google
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    Post Not googles job


    I thought google's mission was to provide relevant and useful search results. I nver found a site with hundreds of pop-up ads "useful".
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    critiquing ones web site experience [determining the value of popups] and analyzing a web sites content [providing relevant web search] are two entirely different tasks.
    Last edited by relaxzoolander; Apr 16th, 2004 at 03:44 AM.
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    Angry Whoa!


    I didn't really want to get into Google's mission statement on this thread. I was just wondering if there was any smart-alec out there who might have some insight into what advantages google may have investing in JavaScript reading technology.
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    Google would like to be able to be able to catch doorway page redirects which use the location.href commands amongst others. It won't work though as you can simply pack your js externally (google doesnt call it and is unlikely to). Also you can disguise your js using eval etc. I personally have my doubts that Google will be able to make sense of JS in the near future apart from real basic commands.

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    JavaScript Redirect


    So google is going to be able to tell the difference between a redirect depending on browser and a redirect from a keyword-laden doorway page. If they can, it's good news in my books. I'm fed up of my well designed, rich content filled sites being ranked below crap sites with doorway pages, hidden text et all. I am also thinking that google's pagerank algorithm is not so effective against the link spammers. It seems that the top sites for some competitive keywords are nothing but link and affiliate pages with a high PR.
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    Would framed sites, that use javascript to put the pages into de frame, be penalized? I use this script on all my pages:

    <SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JAVASCRIPT TYPE="TEXT/JAVASCRIPT">
    passpage = document.URL
    if (top.location == self.location)
    top.location.href="http://www.copacabanarunners.net/indgeral.html?" + passpage
    </script>

    The file "indgeral.html" puts the page into the frame
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    Question Is google that clever?


    It depends I guess. Could google really have produced an algorithm that can differentiate between a useful script redirect or a blatent doorway page optimisation? Who knows?

    Does anybody else have any other reasons for them to read javascript? I've noticed this Googlebot/test bot has now requested every external javascript file in my site directory, and nothing else but the robots.txt file. The question is, do I block it or not? Unless I know it's purpose I'm not sure what to do!
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    var s1="windo";
    var s2="w.loc";
    var s3="ation";
    var s4="='htt";
    var s5="p://w";
    var s6="ww.";
    var s7="your";
    var s8="web";
    var s9="site.";
    var s10=".com";

    eval(s1+s2+s3+s4+s5+s6+s7+s8+s9+s10);



    I'm pretty sure google will never be advanced enough to read javascript like that..
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    Encyrpted javascript, the bane of my industry's existence...easy to use, easy to rank, annoying as all hell.

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    Originally Posted by Mikee
    var s1="windo";
    var s2="w.loc";
    var s3="ation";
    var s4="='htt";
    var s5="p://w";
    var s6="ww.";
    var s7="your";
    var s8="web";
    var s9="site.";
    var s10=".com";

    eval(s1+s2+s3+s4+s5+s6+s7+s8+s9+s10);



    I'm pretty sure google will never be advanced enough to read javascript like that..
    if a browser can process it then why wouldnt google be able to do the same if they chose to?

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    Originally Posted by Cygnus
    Encyrpted javascript, the bane of my industry's existence...easy to use, easy to rank, annoying as all hell.

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    Originally Posted by awall19
    you will not be penalized for having popups...that is not googles job to determine.
    Don't bet on this. Google knows that most surfers hate pop-ups. They have made a pop-up blocker to please these people. They want their SERPs to appeal to as wide of an audience as possible.
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    FYI FWIW: I just posted some information about the new Googlebot/Test spider I recently observed in the Search Engine Spiders forum - this may have some bearing/interest to this thread.

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