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Old April 21st, 2004, 05:00 AM
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Different ways to place products for google

Let's make this simple....some people cannot get to the point.

I have an auto accessories website.

I have 500 products.

Each product is a fully optimized html page.

I have 5 categories with 100 products in each category.

My question is......

I'd like to have certain products in multiple categories.

Will google see it as spam if I upload the same product to all 5 categories?

ie:

car parts.com/rims/spinningrim.html
car parts.com/tires/spinningrim.html
car parts.com/wheels/spinningrim.html

Any advice would be most helpfull.

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Old April 21st, 2004, 01:01 PM
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Is it the same content or same text description being used in these categories over and over again?? If so, do you plan to have 5 pages that are exactly the same, spread across 5 categories? What do you plan to do to offset possible duplicate content? What are your methods to make the content unique? Optimization does not always mean uniqueness in most cases. What would be the purpose of adding these duplicate pages to other categories? How would it benefit the user? Would you really benefit ranking wize from 5 duplicate pages feed to the search engines? Would 5 of the same pages be confusing to the visitor?

If you are unsure about any of the above, answer those questions first before you proceed to doing what you plan to do. I think some replication is not bad, shot most websites do it in some fashion. But if you are just renaming pages and sticking them in subdirectories for extra ranking clout in the engines. Its probably not going to help you that much. Additionally, linking between the different subcategories if your create just one "Rims" page for your item, will be a lot of effective in directing PR correctly, then having to worry about 5 pages.

Hope that helps. :-)

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Old April 21st, 2004, 05:53 PM
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Pheonix...Your asking more questions then answering....lol
Google is searching for groups of pages now.(in the auto parts biz)

So my theory is.... Create new groups of pages and optimize the title and meta descriptions of those categroies.

I believe google does not see the pages as pages anymore,
once you group them in categories.

Let me know what you think or if you've had the same experience.

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Is it the same content or same text description being used in these categories over and over again?? If so, do you plan to have 5 pages that are exactly the same, spread across 5 categories? What do you plan to do to offset possible duplicate content? What are your methods to make the content unique? Optimization does not always mean uniqueness in most cases. What would be the purpose of adding these duplicate pages to other categories? How would it benefit the user? Would you really benefit ranking wize from 5 duplicate pages feed to the search engines? Would 5 of the same pages be confusing to the visitor?

If you are unsure about any of the above, answer those questions first before you proceed to doing what you plan to do. I think some replication is not bad, shot most websites do it in some fashion. But if you are just renaming pages and sticking them in subdirectories for extra ranking clout in the engines. Its probably not going to help you that much. Additionally, linking between the different subcategories if your create just one "Rims" page for your item, will be a lot of effective in directing PR correctly, then having to worry about 5 pages.

Hope that helps. :-)

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i would avoid what you describe.
why not use one page.
put the spinning rims in the most appropriate category directory.
in all of the other categories...simply link to that one page.
why create the hassle for yourself of 3 pages to change each time you want to update the spinning rims page.


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I believe google does not see the pages as pages anymore, once you group them in categories.

this is just not true.

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i would avoid what you describe.
why not use one page.
put the spinning rims in the most appropriate category directory.
in all of the other categories...simply link to that one page.
why create the hassle for yourself of 3 pages to change each time you want to update the spinning rims page.



I agree 100%... you will have index pages for each group of products... link to the single page from both.
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I see what your saying but google does not see it as duplicate pages anymore, just as long as you group the pages in a different category.

ie: rims/chome
wheels/chome
tires/chrome
www.2 kracing .com has it this way ....is doing 500 products, has 300 products but has multiple categories, thus producing over 40,000 products according to google.


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i would avoid what you describe.
why not use one page.
put the spinning rims in the most appropriate category directory.
in all of the other categories...simply link to that one page.
why create the hassle for yourself of 3 pages to change each time you want to update the spinning rims page.



this is just not true.

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What you might find is that Google only displays one of these pages as the pages are basically duplicated.

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What you might find is that Google only displays one of these pages as the pages are basically duplicated.


That is true but having THAT many pages gives them an automatic PR of 5 sometimes 6 even. Which is high for auto.

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