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Old October 3rd, 2008, 08:09 AM
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Density Of Keyword

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Can you tell me
What should be optimal density of two phrase keywords?
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 10:28 AM
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Hi to all
Can you tell me
What should be optimal density of two phrase keywords?
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There's no such set keyword density you can shoot for to help with SEO. Just write naturally (visitor friendly).

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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:00 AM
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I think it's you should repeat it about 5-10 times in an article (500-1500 words) in a natural manner. And to have the first occurrence as close as possible to the start of the article.

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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:13 AM
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I think it's you should repeat it about 5-10 times in an article (500-1500 words) in a natural manner. And to have the first occurrence as close as possible to the start of the article.
Really? What benefit does repeating it x number of times have over mentioning it once, or repeating it 2x times? Do you honestly believe that search engines are so basic that they base relevance on the number of times a word is repeated?

As has been proved time and time again, keyword density (no matter what your preferred percentage is) makes no difference to rankings. All it does is force you to create content that reads unnaturally, turning off visitors in the process.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 11:21 AM
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I think it's you should repeat it about 5-10 times in an article (500-1500 words) in a natural manner. And to have the first occurrence as close as possible to the start of the article.


So where does your set percentage of 0.33% to 2% (according to numbers above) come from? Anything you set like this can mess with your natural writing without providing any benefit.

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Many webmasters (lower case "w" is intentional) seem to think that if one instance of their key phrase is good, then 500 instances must be better. That was true to some extent several years ago, but not anymore.

Now that the more advanced search engines employ latent semantic indexing, there's simply no benefit to spamming the SE's because the SE's are applying filters to over optimized sites.
Do your level best to write content that sounds natural when read aloud and you'll be fine. Rule of thumb? try to keep your keyword density between 2 and 5% and you should be okay.
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Rule of thumb? try to keep your keyword density between 2 and 5% and you should be okay.


Great except for this part. Why any set keyword density at all? As long as an article reads natural, why should you have to raise or lower the number of times the keywords appear in order to fit in some arbitrary range?
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Many webmasters (lower case "w" is intentional) seem to think that if one instance of their key phrase is good, then 500 instances must be better. That was true to some extent several years ago, but not anymore.

Now that the more advanced search engines employ latent semantic indexing, there's simply no benefit to spamming the SE's because the SE's are applying filters to over optimized sites.
Do your level best to write content that sounds natural when read aloud and you'll be fine. Rule of thumb? try to keep your keyword density between 2 and 5% and you should be okay.


You started great and ended pushing untruthful specifics.

2 and 5% is no better than 0.5% or 10% or 0% or 100%

The "RULE OF THUMB" what ever it is, that's best!

Writing and then measuring changes nothing, and intentionally editing to make it seem that "something is better"... is total, pure, absolute 100% inaccruate SEO Bull**** Dogmat!
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Hey thanks hitendra28
I understand what is density of keyword means.
Actually you're new at this... or was a mere 5 days ago.

Since you asked about the "optimum density" clearly you don't understand it all that well... but you'll learn if you keep asking questions.

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Actually you're new at this... or was a mere 5 days ago.

Since you asked about the "optimum density" clearly you don't understand it all that well... but you'll learn if you keep asking questions.

Yes i just wanted to know about the effect of keyword density in SEO.

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Yes i just wanted to know about the effect of keyword density in SEO.


put a keyword in the title element [once]

put a keyword in the page title [once]

having a keyword in body text, alt tags or page urls are optional - together these don't do much...

technically those points have absolutely nothing to do with density - optimal or otherwise...

It's like saying "gas" made you speed and get a speeding ticket... you can argue that with "no gas" there is "NO WAY" for you to get a speeding ticket... but that isn't really what occurred.

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As long as your keywords appear in your title, header and URl,I think worrying about on page keyword density is not a big deal
Some people quote 3 to 7%
I have found that LSI is actually as relevant as keyword density

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As long as your keywords appear in your title, header and URl,I think worrying about on page keyword density is not a big deal
Some people quote 3 to 7%
I have found that LSI is actually as relevant as keyword density


So you're saying that LSI is an equally worthless measurement?

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