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Old July 9th, 2007, 01:25 AM
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Complete website overhaul

Hi everyone,

I just recently accepted a job as the Internet Marketing Manager for a mid-sized business. I begin tomorrow and I already have a ton of work to do. However, there is one aspect of the site that really bugs me and that I would love to change completely...tables. You see, the site has been around since 2001, so it has already been designed. I'm not going to be working from scratch. But, I really think I need to do something about the excessive code (i.e. nested tables). I'm a huge advocate of using CSS for layout and positioning. I know that it's going to have to be changed in the long run, and I would hate to start any type of optimization on a site that I think could be better semantically. The only problem is that I would have to sell the idea to the owner, which probably means more money out of his pocket.

Has anyone out there had a similar situation? Any suggestions?

Thanks so much, any help is appreciated.

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Old July 9th, 2007, 11:38 AM
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well why don't you suggest it.. if thats going to more easy to for him and for the good of the site.. nested tables, i use it before and its really hard manage and edit especially if you have a long table..
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There was a recent post here in SEO tools or site reviews about a Tables to CSS convertor.

Maybe you could look at that.

I know its hassle but if you have a template based apprach its not as big a job as it seems.

I am a big advocate of CSS too and I hate code bloat but in the grand scheme of things, its not really a big issue. I think your time would be better spent on other areas. This could be a back burner job.

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why don't you suggest it for free? you can benefit for it too,, and that is to get his trust that you want their site be search engine friendly...

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don't worry about the tables, but the next redesign be sure to employ some more CSS. Fact of the matters is, tables are still good especially when coding for tables.
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Ok, cool. Thanks for the responses guys.

I actually brought it up yesterday, and the owner seemed like he was on board. He personally, doesn't like the way the site looks in general, so I think he's gonna push for a re-design. However, if the tables aren't going to hurt me in rankings as much I thought they would, then I won't push to speed up the re-design process myself. The only thing that somewhat worries me is that I'm working in a pretty competitive market (network hardware resale), so I just want to tie up any loose ends. That way the rest of these guys won't out "finesse" me with their beautifully coded CSS sites.

Thanks again!

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